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PostPosted: Wed 16 Apr 2014 10:59 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
If it is Old Irish I wouldn't have a clue, Breandán is the expert there.

More likely Lughaidh or Cian. :bolt:

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Apr 2014 11:16 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
If it is Old Irish I wouldn't have a clue, Breandán is the expert there.

More likely Lughaidh or Cian. :bolt:


Don't be modest. :LOL:

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Apr 2014 11:27 pm 
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MAGGYMAY wrote:
Hi Brid, many thanks. Is the translation above Irish gaelic? that's interestng to have the alternative, I am spoilt for choice now, with Breandan's and now yours! Out of interest, I just wondered about the following words : "nom-charai-siu" and "not charaimm-siu." I came across a book of 'old' irish and it said that the first words were gaelic for thou lovest me, and that "not charaimm-siu" is gaelic for I love thee. There were slight variations depending on the emphasis placed on words. Just wondered if you have come across these words and whether that is the case.

Many thanks, Maggymay

What you have quoted is how "I love you" was said in the Irish of the 8,9,10th centuries. The verbs worked differently then and the subject (mé) and the object (tú) are built into the verb.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Apr 2014 4:40 am 
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Hi Brid, many thanks. Is the translation above Irish gaelic? that's interestng to have the alternative, I am spoilt for choice now, with Breandan's and now yours! Out of interest, I just wondered about the following words : "nom-charai-siu" and "not charaimm-siu." I came across a book of 'old' irish and it said that the first words were gaelic for thou lovest me, and that "not charaimm-siu" is gaelic for I love thee. There were slight variations depending on the emphasis placed on words. Just wondered if you have come across these words and whether that is the case.


The "nom" and "not" bits survive in modern Scottish Gaelic as nam and nad, meaning "in my" and "in your" (used in various constructions), but the rest of construction is archaic, as already explained.

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PostPosted: Thu 17 Apr 2014 10:17 am 
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Hi, many thanks to you all for your help. We will be ordering my dad's memorial soon, so will get the wording sorted out, now that I have the translations.

The old Irish versions are very old then, if they date from around 10th cent. onwards. I thought they might have been more recent, maybe the 17th/18th cent., so think we will stick with the more modern versions!

regards, Maggymay


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