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 Post subject: Re: breacaibh
PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014 5:01 pm 
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This grammar, supposedly for Ulster of the 17th century, shows a number of dative forms:
http://alecbanmacconaill.org/GRAMMAR.pdf

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Ainmn: an inghean na hingheana
Tabh: don inghin dona hingheanaibh
Gin: méad na hinghine méad na n-inghean
Cusp: marbh inghean marbh na hingheana
Gairm: a inghean a ingheana




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Uatha Iolra
Ainmneach Ó Briain
Tabharthach d'Ú Bhríain d'Íbh Briain
Ginideach mic Í Bhríain mic Ó mBriain
Cuispóireach leis Ó mBríain
Gairmeach a Í Bhriain



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Leis an alt, mar seo

An Nuimhir Uathaidh An Nuimhir Iolruidh

Ainmn.: an fear na fir
Tabh.: don fhior dona fearaibh
Gin.: mac an fhir mac na bhfear
Cuisp.: marbh an fear marbh na fiora
Gairm.: a fhir a fhiora.

Níl aon tuiseal gairmeach ag an alt an. Bíonn a an ghlaoigh i gcónaí ceangailte don
tuiseal ghairmeach, mar a Thaidhg.

Gan an alt, mar seo

Ainmn.: fear fir
Tabh.: d'fhior d'fhearaibh
Gin.: mac fir meic fhear
Cuisp.: marbh fear marbh fiora
Gairm.: a fhir a fhiora

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 Post subject: Re: breacaibh
PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014 7:22 pm 
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Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:
Brilliant thanks, at least ill understand what im looking at when i come across fixed phrases which include the Dative.

:yes: I think this is the key. Learn to recognise them passively, and incorporate them where you can, but you won't be wrong if you don't use them yourself.

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