Not everybody uses them, it may depend on the age of the person, I don't know. I just know both do exist in Corca Dhuibhne because I read it in books about that dialect (written by a native speaker). Ní chuas féinig go Corca Dhuibhne riamh go dtí seo

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Hi All,

Was just wondering if ye could clear this up for me. In Kerry which of the synthetic verb forms are actually in use.

http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/gram.htm?i.htm

Ive used some and people look at me funny and ay you don't use that and then other times people seem to use some of these forms from what i can make out and I'm fairly confused as to which ones are never used, which ones are sometimes used ( and why only sometimes ) and which ones are always used inKerry.

Where in Kerry did you use them?

Basically all of the synthetic forms are used, except for -air in the present for the second person.
Glanann tú, instead of Glanair. In addition to that the second person plural forms are not in any tense
except the imperative and the past:
Glanann sibh, not Glantaí.
Ghlanadh sibh, not Ghlantaí.
Glanfaidh sibh, not Glanfaidh.
(I've only seen this very rarely in literature).

I use all of them, except the ones above and I haven't gotten funny
looks (or maybe I did and didn't notice it!) that's why I'm surprised.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

In Corca Dhuibhne, id expect funny looks in any other part of Kerry for any sort of irish .

But it was definitely the -air in the present for second person I used , which the person helpfully and kindly corrected , which I appreciated. But also made me question if I had got the whole thing wrong.

My Irish is still very basic, halting and slow, most the time i look like a gold fish, glazed eyes and mouth opening and shutting with no clear purpose. getting fundamentals like this wrong just exasperates the gold fish look.

So apart from 2nd person present , i should just stick to sibh for second person plurals , and happily synthesize the rest to my hearts content ?

That's pretty much it. However you can use the synthetic form for the 2nd person plural in the past and imperative.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

actually for the imperative you have no choice, all Irish dialects use the synthetic form (-igí/-ígí endings in Ulster and Connachta, -idh/-ídh in Munster)

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

-idh/-ídh in Munster in Munster for the imperative is what i will come across or is more traditional ?

Does anyone know of any good audio files where I can listen to example of Munster conjugations ?

A very good resource:

http://corkirish.wordpress.com/verb-conjugation/

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

God how did i miss that, thought id been all over that site. Thanks An Lon Dubh

Funny enough, igí and ígí in Ring also.

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