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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 12:47 am 
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chevygarrido1959 wrote:
As for the phrase "Prayer Warriors", I was searching in the web and I suppose there isn't a genetive case for that; but if we were to mention literally "warriors of prayers", then according to the translation it would be "laochra paidir".

Google Translate is NOT a web search. It's a computer translation tool that never produces good results when used that way. It exists only to give you a rough idea of what a piece of text means if you don't understand the language it's written in.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 1:05 am 
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For the latter part of it, perhaps:

Arm ungtha neartmhar Dé den chríoch na cruinne.
The anointed mighty army of God of the end of the world

The expression críoch na cruinne is a Scottish Gaelic expression for the end of the world, and since the component words all have the same meaning in Irish, I'm assuming that it will work this way.

or perhaps:

Arm ungtha neartmhar Dé de na laethanta deireanacha.
The anointed mighty army of God of the final days.

Arm ungtha neartmhar Dé de na hamanna deireanacha.
The anointed mighty army of God of the final times.

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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 1:37 am 
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NiallBeag wrote:
chevygarrido1959 wrote:
As for the phrase "Prayer Warriors", I was searching in the web and I suppose there isn't a genetive case for that; but if we were to mention literally "warriors of prayers", then according to the translation it would be "laochra paidir".

Google Translate is NOT a web search. It's a computer translation tool that never produces good results when used that way. It exists only to give you a rough idea of what a piece of text means if you don't understand the language it's written in.


I know Google translate is not a reliable tool. I was just trying to help out. Thanks for the advise:D


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 1:49 am 
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chevygarrido1959 wrote:
Thank you so much for helping me out! :D So I'm suppoising which one is the correct translation? lol

It's a work in progress, we're trying to figure out the best way to say end times. Could you specificy as to what exactly you mean by it? As Redwolf said, there are many different interpretations of end times, if you can answer what she asked in her latest post, perhaps we can help you with the closest translation possible.


Yes, indeed. Just like Redwolf mentioned, I actually refered to the time of tribulation before the second coming of Christ.

As for the phrase "Prayer Warriors", I was searching in the web and I suppose there isn't a genetive case for that; but if we were to mention literally "warriors of prayers", then according to the translation it would be "laochra paidir".
Tá beagán Gaeilge agam, ach tosaitheoir mé. So I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I'm very thankful for both of your kindness and help.

P.S. Are any of you Irish? I'm trying to make friends who speak Irish, since a good way is to interact with people who speal the language you want to learn,

Go raith maith agat! :D


At question is, is "Prayer Warriors" the name of the church? How the first part of this works out will depend on that.

Or, to put it another way, if I were to drive by your church building, would the sign outside say "Prayer Warriors' Evangelical Church"? Or are you "Prayer Warriors" of an (unspecified) Evangelical church? It will actually make a huge difference to the translation.

Don't rely on web searches, please, as a beginner. Let us sort it out. Once we get everything clarified, we can get it sorted for you.

Redwolf


The church's name is "International Prayer Warrior Evangelical Church".

Here's the link of the logo so you can see the idea.
http://www.iglesiainternacional.cl/engl ... ?photoId=8

We have headquaters all over the world such as Venezuela, Chile (I live in Chile btw), USA, etc., and I'm planning a headquaters for Ireland, and it's not that I don't know that Ireland speaks English, we know that, but I'm translating the logo for a specific vision. It's because I totally respect the Irish language and its culture, and my intention is to encourage our church in Ireland to speak Gaeilge at the meetings, as well as giving free Irish classes. So it's more than preaching, but also to incentivate the Irish culture and language! It has an intriguing mission! :D

Thanks for the advise. I never rely on Google translate or any translating tools. That's why I came here, and I thank you for your help.


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 5:49 am 
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chevygarrido1959 wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
chevygarrido1959 wrote:
Gumbi wrote:
chevygarrido1959 wrote:
Thank you so much for helping me out! :D So I'm suppoising which one is the correct translation? lol

It's a work in progress, we're trying to figure out the best way to say end times. Could you specificy as to what exactly you mean by it? As Redwolf said, there are many different interpretations of end times, if you can answer what she asked in her latest post, perhaps we can help you with the closest translation possible.


Yes, indeed. Just like Redwolf mentioned, I actually refered to the time of tribulation before the second coming of Christ.

As for the phrase "Prayer Warriors", I was searching in the web and I suppose there isn't a genetive case for that; but if we were to mention literally "warriors of prayers", then according to the translation it would be "laochra paidir".
Tá beagán Gaeilge agam, ach tosaitheoir mé. So I'm not sure if I'm correct, but I'm very thankful for both of your kindness and help.

P.S. Are any of you Irish? I'm trying to make friends who speak Irish, since a good way is to interact with people who speal the language you want to learn,

Go raith maith agat! :D


At question is, is "Prayer Warriors" the name of the church? How the first part of this works out will depend on that.

Or, to put it another way, if I were to drive by your church building, would the sign outside say "Prayer Warriors' Evangelical Church"? Or are you "Prayer Warriors" of an (unspecified) Evangelical church? It will actually make a huge difference to the translation.

Don't rely on web searches, please, as a beginner. Let us sort it out. Once we get everything clarified, we can get it sorted for you.

Redwolf


The church's name is "International Prayer Warrior Evangelical Church".

Here's the link of the logo so you can see the idea.
http://www.iglesiainternacional.cl/engl ... ?photoId=8

We have headquaters all over the world such as Venezuela, Chile (I live in Chile btw), USA, etc., and I'm planning a headquaters for Ireland, and it's not that I don't know that Ireland speaks English, we know that, but I'm translating the logo for a specific vision. It's because I totally respect the Irish language and its culture, and my intention is to encourage our church in Ireland to speak Gaeilge at the meetings, as well as giving free Irish classes. So it's more than preaching, but also to incentivate the Irish culture and language! It has an intriguing mission! :D

Thanks for the advise. I never rely on Google translate or any translating tools. That's why I came here, and I thank you for your help.


Given that, I'd say that Gumbí is on the right track for the first part of it:

Quote:
Eaglais Soiscéalaíochta na Laochra Phaidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta


Still kind of working on the "end times", since the whole Great Trib thing isn't a concept that's had much play in Ireland. Caomhín suggested a translation of "end of the world"...would that work for you? Or perhaps something like "An Cruatan Mór" (The Great Trial -- "trial" as in "tribulation")?

If we can get that sorted, I think we can do the rest of it.

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 2:26 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
Given that, I'd say that Gumbí is on the right track for the first part of it:

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Eaglais Soiscéalaíochta na Laochra Phaidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta


Still kind of working on the "end times", since the whole Great Trib thing isn't a concept that's had much play in Ireland. Caomhín suggested a translation of "end of the world"...would that work for you? Or perhaps something like "An Cruatan Mór" (The Great Trial -- "trial" as in "tribulation")?

If we can get that sorted, I think we can do the rest of it.

Redwolf


Maidin mhaith, a Redwolf!

According to the Bible, there is no specific term for the word "end-time", but it does mention "final days" or "last days". In fact, of the passages of the Bible, only in 2 Peter 3:3, it says, "Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires."

So if we were to look for this passage in the Biobla Naofa, I found this translation for "final days": "laethanta deireanacha." Here´s the complete passage: Dara Litir Naomh Peadar 3:3, "Bíodh seo ar eolas agaibh ar dtús, go dtíocfaidh scigirí ag scigireacht sna laethanta deireanacha agus iad ag déanamh de réir a n-ainmhianta féin," etc.

So I would go for "laethanta deireanacha". :D

Good luck. :)


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Eaglais Soiscéalaíochta na Laochra Phaidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta: Arm Neartmhar Ungtha Dé na Laethanta Deireanacha

should work then.

Wait for a confirmation or two from others to be sure.


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Gumbi wrote:
Eaglais Soiscéalaíochta na Laochra Phaidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta: Arm Neartmhar Ungtha Dé na Laethanta Deireanacha

should work then.

Wait for a confirmation or two from others to be sure.


Looks good from here! Quite a mouthful, in English or in Irish!

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Redwolf wrote:
Gumbi wrote:
Eaglais Soiscéalaíochta na Laochra Phaidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta: Arm Neartmhar Ungtha Dé na Laethanta Deireanacha

should work then.

Wait for a confirmation or two from others to be sure.


Looks good from here! Quite a mouthful, in English or in Irish!

Redwolf


Thank you so much guys!

What Gumbi wrote for "Prayer Warriors" in the beggining, I'm going for it, which was "Laochra Paidir", since the term "Laochra Phaidreacha" is Warriors of prayers (plural for prayer), and the correct version is Warriors of Prayer. Therefore, it would be "Laochra Paidir".

As for the design of the church's logo, I personally want to use the Traditional Irish Gaeilge style, that also includes the lenited consonants with the dot above, but I can't seem to download the font, since all the fonts I've searched, it only designs the Roman Letters in Celtic designs. For example the lower case of the letter "s" in the Traditional Irish Gaeilge style it almost looks like an r, but Microsoft Word doesn't translate it; it just stays that way.

Question: Where can I find a generator that would translate word by word my phrase to an Irish traditional celtic font, like in the irishgaelictranslator.com Forum? The Forum has an Irish Font Writer. I tried it myself, and it looks rad, but it doesn't let me copy the phrase. :( That would be my last call out and I won't bother again, instead of sharing you the final design of the Logo. You guys are the best! :D

Thanks again!

Chevy :)


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PostPosted: Thu 14 May 2015 3:55 pm 
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Gumbi wrote:
Eaglais Soiscéalaíochta na Laochra Phaidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta: Arm Neartmhar Ungtha Dé na Laethanta Deireanacha

should work then.

Wait for a confirmation or two from others to be sure.


Eaglais Shoiscéalaíochta na Laochra Paidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta: Arm Neartmhar Ungtha Dé dena Laethanta Deireanacha

-Eaglais is feminine

-Laochra: As far as I know, broad endings don't tend to lenite the following word.

-Dena: I think having dena makes the sense clearer?

That was a mouthful, in the end it was hard to know who owned what :LOL: .

Just from looking at your emblem http://www.iglesiainternacional.cl/engl ... ?photoId=8 , it seems as if the "Evangelical Church" part is a separate entity (a seperate sentence) to the "international prayer warriors".

If you are trying to recreate this emblem in Irish it would go as follows, reading from top to bottom:

-Laochra Paidreoireachta Idirnáisiúnta-

-Greasán Domhanda- 'Worldwide Network'

-Ie é Íosa an Tiarna- 'Jesus is Lord'

-An Airm Ollchumhachtach/ Neartmhar Ungtha Dé dena Laethanata Deireanacha-

-Eaglais Shoiscéalaíochta-

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