Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:
so when I read things like certain prepositions require the dative, they dont ?
Well, people don't make as much use out of the dative as they once did, so after a preposition you could hear either the nominative or the dative. In the plural it is much more likely that you will hear the nominative unless its a fixed phrase or counting.
In the singular it seems to be pretty random to me and dependent on the person (I know people who always use the dative, others never, with many in between). The only vague rule is that you see it in fixed phrases, e.g.
ar lic an dorais on the doorstep, as well with feminine words ending in
-óg, e.g.
ar an bhfuinneoig and finally there is a list of common words like
súl, sál that always seem to use it. However don't be surprised if somebody says
leis an leite with the porridge rather than
leis an leitin.