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PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013 5:17 pm 
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Ellen wrote:
In answer to your question, this began as a personal project, but it intersects with my professional life as well, and will probably do so even more in the future. The site is http://www.ellenjovin.com. I appreciate the kind words!

Hi, Ellen. Just a note to confirm what has been said above and to add that now that you have made more than ten posts, you can add a signature to your account. You can put a link to your blog there, if you like. (Normally we prefer people to ask for permission before putting links into signatures, but we've checked out your blog and you can consider this pre-approval. ;) ) Thanks for mentioning ILF, too. :GRMA:

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PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013 5:48 pm 
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Thank you very much, Breandán.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013 6:22 pm 
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Oh, I finally figured out GRMA. ;)

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PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013 6:23 pm 
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Ellen wrote:
Oh, I finally figured out GRMA. ;)

:D

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013 9:32 pm 
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In Scotland Gàidhlig is pronounced Garlic, in Scots as well as in Scots Gaelic - so there's no possible confusion there (and in Kerry it's Gwayling, but that's another story)


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PostPosted: Sun 26 May 2013 11:59 pm 
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franc 91 wrote:
In Scotland Gàidhlig is pronounced Garlic, in Scots as well as in Scots Gaelic - so there's no possible confusion there (and in Kerry it's Gwayling, but that's another story)

"Garlic" may work as a phonetic representation of Gàidhlig in Britain (at least in non-rhotic areas), but most parts of the US are rhotic, with the word "garlic" pronounced as "GARR-lik" with a strong "r". If you tell people you're learning "Garlic" here, they may take a few steps back. :rofl:

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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013 3:43 am 
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I have two friends here in Texas who grew up in Ireland speaking Irish and both of them call it "Gaelic". They seemed a little confused at first when I talked about saying something "in Irish". I think as someone pointed out in generations past the Irish called the language Gaelic. One guy is about 65 and the other is about 80 years old. When there's a question about what I'm talking about I simply clarify by calling it "Irish Gaelic".


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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013 7:16 am 
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That reminds me of some sleeve notes (I was nearly going to write sliabh/slieve there, but anyway ....) that were written a long time ago that went with the record album 'Below the Salt' by Steeleye Span. The subject matter was two jigs - The Bride's Favourite (now who would that be, I wonder) and Tansey's Fancy (you don't say). I quote -
'So we was sitting in this dressing room when in comes this guy with glasses and he says "Oim afraid youse got de wrong toitles for de toons" and then he goes and rattles off a whole load of Garlic what we couldn't make out, so we gets the roadies to see him off.
Handy things, roadies.'
- Thankfully it's all changed since then, thanks to the likes of Dual, Danú, Clannad srl, so there's hope yet.
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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013 9:45 am 
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I have two friends here in Texas who grew up in Ireland speaking Irish and both of them call it "Gaelic"

What part of Ireland are your friends from?


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PostPosted: Mon 27 May 2013 8:50 pm 
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Non-Gaelic/Irish speakers are often oblivious to the difference between Irish and Gaelic, even when working with the languages. In the movie "The Eagle", which has many subtitled Irish and Gaelic lines in it (and a few unsubtitled phrases which we worked on at the old forum once), if you listen to the extra materials on the DVD, there's an interview with the director where he talks about how all of those lines were in Scottish Gaelic. He seemed unaware that only Jamie Bell did his lines in Gaelic. The other actors, some of whom were from Ireland, did their lines in Irish, and there are several scenes with the other actors speaking to Jamie in Irish and him speaking to them in Gaelic.

Of course, given the setting, Jamie should actually have been speaking Welsh, as the nearest they could get these days to the Brythonic which his character would actually have spoken, and so should the other characters encountered north of Hadrian's wall, except possibly the "seal people", if they were intended to be Gaels (although their blue-painted skin makes one think they were meant to be Picts).

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