I agree with everything that was said here.
There are many learners and "new speakers" who believe they know more than everybody else even though they don't know anything but standard Irish spoken with an English-language accent.

There are loads of people like that in Brittany too. Don't waste your time trying to convince people who will never admit they are wrong or that you can know more than them... It's better to talk to Gaeltacht speakers, as long as there are some.

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When the caighdeán is abolished and replaced with authentic Irish it will be the biggest step in last few decades in saving the Irish language.

No, a Standard language is necessary.
But its arificiality and its essence as a reasonable compromise must be highlighted to students and learners of Irish.
And it should content - as much as possible - all used, even rarely used, idioms and grammar forms, e.g. relative forms, synthetic verb forms, genitive and even dative forms - not as a prescription (as little as possible should be prescribed) but as a sign of acceptability - and no attempts of "simplification" or over-regulation should be made.
And - last but not least - the supremacy of native Irish, all dialects, over the Standard should be emphasised.
If possible, dead local dialect forms should be examined in Galltacht schools. So that people really know what kind of Irish their anccestors probably spoke.
In the Gaeltacht people should of course be encouraged to speak the local dialect.

Take one central dialect as the new standard, use it as little as possible, and encourage the use of the dialects everytime it's possible, teach the local dialect in every Gaeltacht area...
That would do good to Irish.

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People have gone to the gallows for express less stupid sentiments


Distorting such terms which are not alien to Hiberno-English users (like giolla/gille) shows a total cultural dissimulation. You might as well be a foreigner if you think such things


'Amáireach'...

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Amáireach is also the Munster form, I don't think any (living) dialect has amárach:

http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/am%C3%A1rach

I would think that amárach was chosen because it is the historical form/ spelling, as it supposedly comes from:

i mbáruch (dative)

i mbárach (accusative)

'in spancelling'

Bárach from búarach 'spancel', 'spancelling', is where you tie a rope between the cow's hind leg and the front leg, so she doesn't kick you while you try milk to milk her .

Since milking is usually a job for the morning time, the two became synonymous.

Cian

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is "amárach" a deireann muidinne i dTír Chonaill! Seo cionn do na rudaí beaga Ultacha atá sa chaighdeán. Níl mórán acu ann...

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Thá go maith

Alt ana ghreannúr ar fad aige NÓS:

http://nos.ie/gniomhaiochas/teanga/cons ... untasacha/

Cian

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In my opinion there should be three standards: Standard Connacht to be taught in Connacht and Leinster, Standard Ulster and Standard Munster to be taught in their respective provinces.
At the same time learners should be made aware of the differences between the dialects. When these differences are accepted, we will see better dialogue between the dialects and the different vocabulary and forms become accepted across all dialects (when the differences are acknowledged people will be forced to accept all the variations in order to facilitate communication). Thus our three standards will come into closer and closer conformity to one another. The standards can also be periodically revised and dialectical differences will slowly start to be eliminated first by variations becoming universally accepted and then probably by one variation being accepted over another.
As the situation now stands though, learners are encouraged to pretend that there are no variations and are taught that the caighdeán is the only correct form of Irish. This is only creating a gap between the native speakers and the learners of Irish that is harmful to the language.

read this! http://tuairisc.ie/fag-an-fata-ag-coilin-agus-lig-do-bhran-e-a-chuartu-10-n-aitheanta-an-chaighdeain-oifigiuil/