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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2014 4:33 am 
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Jay Bee wrote:
But there is no rounded lips -'gaoth' is [gˠɰiː] not 'gwee'. The glide can be formed by not rounding the lips


That's exactly what Breandán and I just said! Go back and re-read, please!

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2014 12:33 pm 
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Oh, right, so ye be; I was more reacting to the imagined not-getting-it-right person who I fear will pick it up wrong anyways

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2014 7:46 pm 
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Phonics - the art of second-guessing how someone might (mis)pronounce a given word in a target language based on assumptions of how they might (mis)pronounce certain words in another language in a particular way. :LOL:


Caoimhe really only has one pronunciation, even though there may be different ways to describe that pronunciation.

Siobhán on the other hand has two, i.e., SHIV-awn and SHOE-awn, the latter being prevalent in Connemara:

http://www.forvo.com/word/siobh%C3%A1n/#ga

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2014 7:59 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Phonics - the art of second-guessing how someone might (mis)pronounce a given word in a target language based on assumptions of how they might (mis)pronounce certain words in another language in a particular way.
That sums it up really well.
Breandán wrote:
there may be different ways to describe that pronunciation.
That's it in a nut shell! :yes:

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
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Sadhbh - is another one different in Conamara.

http://www.forvo.com/word/sadhbh/#ga

Offhand I can't think of others, but I say there is more.

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2014 8:16 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Sadhbh - is another one different in Conamara.

http://www.forvo.com/word/sadhbh/#ga

Offhand I can't think of others, but I say there is more.

:yes:

Aisling can be ASH-ling or ASH-lin, the latter being the Connemara pronunciation.

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
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Nearly everyone I know from Ulster pronounces Caoimhe as Kee-va, Is it solely an English pronunciation or is it pronounced similarly in northern dialects?

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 Post subject: Re: Leanbh núa
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Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:
Nearly everyone I know from Ulster pronounces Caoimhe as Kee-va, Is it solely an English pronunciation or is it pronounced similarly in northern dialects?


I'm guessing it's an English pronunciation as, when I've been speaking Irish with people in the area, they tend to pronounce it as Breandán described.

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