One of the copula rules

Scooby · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 7:18 pm **Posts:** 576

Breandán wrote:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Breandán wrote:

In Connacht, I think those would be:

Is athair é - He is a father
Is é m'athair é - He is my father
Is sagart é - He is a priest
Is é an sagart é - He is the priest

Yes.

But just to make it clear to people. If there is more coming after it then the second "é" is not included.
Is é m'athair a rinne an obair sin.

Sin é é.

franc 91 · **Posted:** Wed 25 Apr 2012 5:50 pm

I've just seen this -
Sagart is ea é - He's a priest (another way of saying it)

Mick · **Joined:** Fri 18 Nov 2011 2:27 pm **Posts:** 622

"is ea" is used in Munster to add extra emphasis. I don't think it's used in Connacht or Ulster.

Is sagart é = He's a priest
Sagart is ea é = A priest! is what he is

franc 91 · **Posted:** Wed 25 Apr 2012 6:43 pm

O ceart go leor - it's fronting (I didn't think of that and yes of course it's Munsterish)

Lughaidh · **Joined:** Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2436

In Ulster you'd say:

Is sagart é
or
Sagart atá ann.

"Sagart" is pronounced /sajərt/ in NW Donegal, a bit as if it were "saigheart".

Errigal · **Joined:** Fri 09 Sep 2011 2:06 pm **Posts:** 715

Mick wrote:

"is ea" is used in Munster to add extra emphasis. I don't think it's used in Connacht or Ulster.

Is sagart é = He's a priest
Sagart is ea é = A priest! is what he is

...According to the Chers Freres Chrétiens [sais pas do the accent grave]

According to the Munsters themselves, however, "Sagart is ea é" is their default version. And even Donegal speakers can be heard using this form on RnaG.

Mick · **Joined:** Fri 18 Nov 2011 2:27 pm **Posts:** 622

http://www.corkirish.com/wordpress/archives/2174

I know this article has been posted here before, but since we're discussing the copula, it might be good to take a look at it again. The relevant part is quoted below.

Quote:

Is fear é=he is a man (not a different being).
Tá sé in’ fhear=he is a man (he has become a man).
Fear is ea é=he is a man (‘man’ emphatic).
Fear atá ann=he is a man (the person you see is a man).

Note that the publication date is 1895, so the usage may have changed.

Lughaidh · **Joined:** Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm **Posts:** 2436

Quote:

According to the Munsters themselves, however, "Sagart is ea é" is their default version. And even Donegal speakers can be heard using this form on RnaG.

maybe because they heard Munster speakers doing it?...

Mick · **Joined:** Fri 18 Nov 2011 2:27 pm **Posts:** 622

I've often heard "freisin" being used by Munster speakers, even though all good sources say this is not part of the Munster dialect. I guess a lot of expressions are moving across dialects nowadays.

And it's not just in Irish either. The other day, a fella from Dublin called me "dude."

Redwolf · **Posted:** Thu 26 Apr 2012 3:59 am

Mick wrote:

I've often heard "freisin" being used by Munster speakers, even though all good sources say this is not part of the Munster dialect. I guess a lot of expressions are moving across dialects nowadays.

And it's not just in Irish either. The other day, a fella from Dublin called me "dude."

That's a good thing, I'd say (in Irish, anyway!) :yes:

Regarding "dude"...resistance is futile! (dude!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMSSe7cOvA

Redwolf

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