Good afternoon everyone.

A few time before and with your precious help, I chose 5 words for a tattoo in Old Irish:

SPIRUT, SONUS, SUÍTHE, SLÁNTU, STÚAIM
[spirˠud], [sonus], [si:θʲe], [sla:ntu], [stuamʲ]

Since then I have been wondering how I would place the words, in graphic or phonetic form.
The problem with this is that although SONUS and SLANTU are pretty much the same either way,
the other three are difficult for me to interpret some of the signs.

Am I right in believing that:

[spirˠud] doesn't spell SPIRUT but SPIRIUD;
[si:θʲe] doesn't spell SUITHE but SITHIE; and
[stuamʲ] doesn't spell STÚAIM but STUAMI?

I used to be good at this but in my own language

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Alban

mmm no, it's not right, if I understand your question.
The spelling of these words corresponds well to the pronunciation.
The only thing that may look weird is the fact that "t" in "spirut" is pronounced d, but that's the rule in Old Irish, final and intervocalic "t" was pronounced "d" at that time.

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Thanks Lughaidh

So SPIRUT is pronounced SPIRUD (got derailed there with the weird sign between "r" and "u"), ok.

However, how come the first part of [si:θʲe] is pronounced SUITHE instead of SITHE (already corrected it from SITHIE) and [stuamʲ] becomes STÚAIM in pronounciation and not STUAMI (because of the [stuamʲ] part of the phonetic transliteration?

Thanks for all the help provided so far, I really really appreciate it

Alban

the other way round:
[si:θʲe] is spelled SUITHE (instead of SITHE)
SUITHE is pronounced [si:θʲe]

... because the s is broad. U is a marker for broadness/velarization.
And U is a short offglide sound from broad S to slender I.
[si:θʲe] is rather [sui:θʲe] or more correctly [sɰi:θʲe]



Phonetic transliteration: That little ʲ isn't a sound on its own. It is marker for a palatalized ("slender") consonant, so mʲ = palatalized m.
Written (Old) Irish: The i before m is just a marker for palatalization. And it's a short onglide sound from broad ua to slender m.

[stuamʲ] is actually pronounced [stuaɪmʲ]

SPIRUD, SUITHE, STUAIM, SONUS, SLANTU, got it!

Labhrás: thank you so much my friend all the best to you

Alban

I think "suíthe" was pronounced [sujθʲe] in Old Irish (cf the book Sengoídelc p. 23). The "u" is really pronounced and didn't have the value of just showing that the s is broad.

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