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 Post subject: s'agam, s'agat, srl
PostPosted: Sat 01 Aug 2015 2:17 am 
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What dialects use these constructions (example: an teach s'againne). I know for a fact they're used in Donegal, but do they appear much in Connacht or Munster? Also, is there any extra connotation behind them rather than another way to do possession-like things. Like, is there a difference between an teach s-againne and ár dteach?


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 Post subject: Re: s'agam, s'agat, srl
PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug 2015 4:14 am 
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galaxyrocker wrote:
What dialects use these constructions (example: an teach s'againne). I know for a fact they're used in Donegal, but do they appear much in Connacht or Munster? Also, is there any extra connotation behind them rather than another way to do possession-like things. Like, is there a difference between an teach s-againne and ár dteach?


Yes we say "teach s-againne" etc in Conamara too. Pronounce something like "shan(g)a".

I'm not able to explain the difference in usage between it and "ár dteach". Sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: s'agam, s'agat, srl
PostPosted: Sun 02 Aug 2015 11:30 am 
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There's no difference in meaning per se, it's just a historical difference in perspective.

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 Post subject: Re: s'agam, s'agat, srl
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There's also the possessive formed with "le"...for example "A Dhia, a Dhia liom!" (O God, my God!). In "The Secret of Roan Inish" one group refers to their house as "Teach linn."

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 Post subject: Re: s'agam, s'agat, srl
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galaxyrocker wrote:
What dialects use these constructions (example: an teach s'againne). I know for a fact they're used in Donegal, but do they appear much in Connacht or Munster? Also, is there any extra connotation behind them rather than another way to do possession-like things. Like, is there a difference between an teach s-againne and ár dteach?


s’againne (or s’ainne as Bríd said), s'agaibhse are used in Ulster & Connacht
s’agamsa, s’agatsa are confined to Ulster. There's seo ’amsa, seo ’atsa in Connacht instead.
In Munster you have to use seo agamsa, seo agatsa, etc.


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