It is currently Wed 01 Jul 2026 3:14 pm

All times are UTC


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Just new need some help
PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct 2014 2:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue 21 Oct 2014 2:26 pm
Posts: 1
Hi all, I am a complete beginner, I have been toying about with the idea of learning the Irish language for sometime but recently took the plunge and have joined a local class and I am now looking for support and help from people like yourselves. My class are breaking up for a mid-term break next week and I have joined the one and only beginners class in the school, the teacher has set us a task, with no pressure involved at all, that we have to initiate a conversation in the pub after you have just walked in, where a native speaker you meet asks you,'would you like a drink',' what would you like to drink','would you like something to eat', etc.
If anyone can help me in any way with this I would be most grateful.
Thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue 21 Oct 2014 2:59 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:44 pm
Posts: 3512
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains, California, USA
mac cool wrote:
Hi all, I am a complete beginner, I have been toying about with the idea of learning the Irish language for sometime but recently took the plunge and have joined a local class and I am now looking for support and help from people like yourselves. My class are breaking up for a mid-term break next week and I have joined the one and only beginners class in the school, the teacher has set us a task, with no pressure involved at all, that we have to initiate a conversation in the pub after you have just walked in, where a native speaker you meet asks you,'would you like a drink',' what would you like to drink','would you like something to eat', etc.
If anyone can help me in any way with this I would be most grateful.
Thanks


We're always happy to help. Why don't you take a stab at it first, and we'll help you sort it out? That's the best way to learn, really.

For example, if I were that native speaker (I'm not, by the way, but let's pretend) and I asked you "Ar mhaith leat deoch?" (would you like a drink?), how might you respond?

Redwolf


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 22 Oct 2014 3:17 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon 18 Aug 2014 4:29 pm
Posts: 67
Location: NSW Australia
Can I play, can I huh? Can I!?! :clap: Usually it is me asking for help, and I am only at the beginner stage with Munster dialect. Please take advice from more experienced members, they are very generous with help. This is a good exercise, well for me any way. From my early Liam O'Maonlai lessons comes a very stiff conversation:

Would you like a drink? Ar mhaith leat deoch?
I am thirsty. Tá tart orm.
I have some Irish. Please speak slowly. Tá roinnt Gaeilge agam. Labhair go mall le do thoil.
A pint of lager (beer) please. Pionta beoir le do thoil.
Thank you. Go raibh maith agat.
I am hungry. Tá ocras orm.
Would you like a ham sandwich or a toasted cheese sandwich? Ar mhaith leat ceapaire liabháis, nó ceapaire caise tóstáilte?
I don’t understand. Can you repeat that please. Ni thuigim. Abair sin aris le do thoil?
I would like a toasted ham sandwich for lunch. Ba mhaith liom ceapaire liabháis tóstáilta don lón.
Would you like to come to dinner? Ar mhaith leat teacht chuig dinnéir?
Can you make a dinner booking for me? An feidir leat airithint dinnéir a dheanam dom?
Thank you very much. Go raibh mile maith agat.
Where is the nearest guest house? Ca bhfuil an teach loistin is gaire?
And you’ll see it on your right, 200 metres later. Agus feicfidh tú é ar dheis, dhá chéad méadar ar aghaidh.
That’s great, thank you very much. Sin iontach, go raibh mile maith agat.
What stout do you sell? Cén leann dubh atá ar diol agat?
A pint of stout and a glass of lager, please. Pionta leann dubh agus gloine beorach, le do thoil.
Oh, it’s pouring rain. Oh, ta se ag stealladh baisti.
It will snow tonight. Ta sneachta air anocht.
When does the bar close? Cathain a dhúnann an béar?
The bar closes at midnight. Dúnann an béar ag meán oiche.

Good luck with that,
JulieA :wave:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 22 Oct 2014 3:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:44 pm
Posts: 3512
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains, California, USA
JulieA wrote:
Can I play, can I huh? Can I!?! :clap: Usually it is me asking for help, and I am only at the beginner stage with Munster dialect. Please take advice from more experienced members, they are very generous with help. This is a good exercise, well for me any way. From my early Liam O'Maonlai lessons comes a very stiff conversation:

Would you like a drink? Ar mhaith leat deoch?
I am thirsty. Tá tart orm.
I have some Irish. Please speak slowly. Tá roinnt Gaeilge agam. Labhair go mall le do thoil.
A pint of lager (beer) please. Pionta beoir le do thoil.
Thank you. Go raibh maith agat.
I am hungry. Tá ocras orm.
Would you like a ham sandwich or a toasted cheese sandwich? Ar mhaith leat ceapaire liabháis, nó ceapaire caise tóstáilte?
I don’t understand. Can you repeat that please. Ni thuigim. Abair sin aris le do thoil?
I would like a toasted ham sandwich for lunch. Ba mhaith liom ceapaire liabháis tóstáilta don lón.
Would you like to come to dinner? Ar mhaith leat teacht chuig dinnéir?
Can you make a dinner booking for me? An feidir leat airithint dinnéir a dheanam dom?
Thank you very much. Go raibh mile maith agat.
Where is the nearest guest house? Ca bhfuil an teach loistin is gaire?
And you’ll see it on your right, 200 metres later. Agus feicfidh tú é ar dheis, dhá chéad méadar ar aghaidh.
That’s great, thank you very much. Sin iontach, go raibh mile maith agat.
What stout do you sell? Cén leann dubh atá ar diol agat?
A pint of stout and a glass of lager, please. Pionta leann dubh agus gloine beorach, le do thoil.
Oh, it’s pouring rain. Oh, ta se ag stealladh baisti.
It will snow tonight. Ta sneachta air anocht.
When does the bar close? Cathain a dhúnann an béar?
The bar closes at midnight. Dúnann an béar ag meán oiche.

Good luck with that,
JulieA :wave:


Those are great, Julie, but I was kind of hoping he'd come up with phrases himself, from the class he's been taking. I suspect that's what the teacher wanted. Dredging them up out of memory and applying them is one way to get useful phrases "pegged" in your mind.

As this is an adult taking a class, rather than a kid asking for help with homework, we don't actually have a requirement that he take a stab at it himself first, but it's still a good policy from a teaching standpoint.

Oh...one spelling correction: It's "beár," not "béar" ("béar" means "bear" and is pronounced as such)

Redwolf


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 22 Oct 2014 8:08 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu 01 Sep 2011 9:55 am
Posts: 2114
Location: 91 - France
Here are a few more suggestions -

What would you like to drink? - Cad é ba mhaith leat le hól?
Would you like to drink something? Yes - An mbeidh deoch agat? Beidh
I would like a glass of beer - Ba mhaith liom gloine leanna.
Give me two pints of beer, please. - Tabhair dom dhá phionta leanna, le do thoil.
The same again. - An rud céanna arís.
Another pint? Here it is - Aon seans ar phionta eile? Seo é
This is my round. - Seo mo sheal - or - Seal s'agamsa.
Would you like another one? - Ar mhaith leat ceann eile?
Yes I would - Ba mhaith.
No I wouldn't - Níor mhaith.

You can say this when you raise your glass/jar/pint -
- Go mbeirimid beo ar an am seo arís!

not forgetting - Cá bhfuil an leithreas le do thoil?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 22 Oct 2014 10:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon 29 Aug 2011 4:54 pm
Posts: 3444
Location: Cill Dara
JulieA wrote:
Ar mhaith leat ceapaire liabháis
or as Bríd would say, 'Ar mhaith leat sandwich ham'!!! viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1437&p=11767&hilit=ceapaire+ham#p11767 :mrgreen:

_________________
Is foghlaimeoir mé. I am a learner. DEFINITELY wait for others to confirm and/or improve.
Beatha teanga í a labhairt.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu 23 Oct 2014 5:30 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon 18 Aug 2014 4:29 pm
Posts: 67
Location: NSW Australia
Redwolf wrote:
JulieA wrote:
Can I play, can I huh? Can I!?! :clap: Usually it is me asking for help, and I am only at the beginner stage with Munster dialect. Please take advice from more experienced members, they are very generous with help. This is a good exercise, well for me any way. From my early Liam O'Maonlai lessons comes a very stiff conversation:

Would you like a drink? Ar mhaith leat deoch?
I am thirsty. Tá tart orm.
I have some Irish. Please speak slowly. Tá roinnt Gaeilge agam. Labhair go mall le do thoil.
A pint of lager (beer) please. Pionta beoir le do thoil.
Thank you. Go raibh maith agat.
I am hungry. Tá ocras orm.
Would you like a ham sandwich or a toasted cheese sandwich? Ar mhaith leat ceapaire liabháis, nó ceapaire caise tóstáilte?
I don’t understand. Can you repeat that please. Ni thuigim. Abair sin aris le do thoil?
I would like a toasted ham sandwich for lunch. Ba mhaith liom ceapaire liabháis tóstáilta don lón.
Would you like to come to dinner? Ar mhaith leat teacht chuig dinnéir?
Can you make a dinner booking for me? An feidir leat airithint dinnéir a dheanam dom?
Thank you very much. Go raibh mile maith agat.
Where is the nearest guest house? Ca bhfuil an teach loistin is gaire?
And you’ll see it on your right, 200 metres later. Agus feicfidh tú é ar dheis, dhá chéad méadar ar aghaidh.
That’s great, thank you very much. Sin iontach, go raibh mile maith agat.
What stout do you sell? Cén leann dubh atá ar diol agat?
A pint of stout and a glass of lager, please. Pionta leann dubh agus gloine beorach, le do thoil.
Oh, it’s pouring rain. Oh, ta se ag stealladh baisti.
It will snow tonight. Ta sneachta air anocht.
When does the bar close? Cathain a dhúnann an béar?
The bar closes at midnight. Dúnann an béar ag meán oiche.

Good luck with that,
JulieA :wave:


Those are great, Julie, but I was kind of hoping he'd come up with phrases himself, from the class he's been taking. I suspect that's what the teacher wanted. Dredging them up out of memory and applying them is one way to get useful phrases "pegged" in your mind.

As this is an adult taking a class, rather than a kid asking for help with homework, we don't actually have a requirement that he take a stab at it himself first, but it's still a good policy from a teaching standpoint.

Oh...one spelling correction: It's "beár," not "béar" ("béar" means "bear" and is pronounced as such)

Redwolf



Makes good sense Redwolf, think his homework helped me more than him. "Dredging" phrases up is a perfect description. Thanks,
JulieA


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu 23 Oct 2014 10:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 01 Jun 2013 8:46 pm
Posts: 466
franc 91 wrote:
This is my round. - Seo mo sheal - or - Seal s'agamsa.


For my round could you not say mo bhabhta, which means turn and round, but also something given in exchange, which is pretty much what the round system is, exchanging drinks

_________________
Bíonn rudaí maithe mall


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:49 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu 01 Sep 2011 9:55 am
Posts: 2114
Location: 91 - France
Yes of course - a round of drinks is - babhta dí. Seal would be a turn (to pay for drinks) rather than a round, strictly speaking, though as it comes from the Appletree Irish Phrase Book, I'm wondering whether this is what they would say in Ulster.
Glasses round! - Gloine do gach duine!
This round of drinks is on me - Ormsa an deoch seo - or - Ormsa an ceann seo - are other ways of saying it.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri 28 Nov 2014 11:06 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm
Posts: 2996
Saoirse wrote:
JulieA wrote:
Ar mhaith leat ceapaire liabháis
or as Bríd would say, 'Ar mhaith leat sandwich ham'!!! viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1437&p=11767&hilit=ceapaire+ham#p11767 :mrgreen:


:LOL:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 346 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group