Jay Bee wrote:
I was going to say I was surprised people would say the things they have above, as if language has no function outside of book-style grammar, but then I remember spending 3 years investigating spoken grammar with maybe 2000 students and how difficult it is for people to see beyond written grammar to the complexities of real-time interaction.
Quite, but it is not only us happy amateurs who suffer real-language-blindness -- after all, the incorrect/incomplete grammar rules that people take to be "grammatically correct" are written by supposed experts.
Now it can be easily seen that most books that attempt to teach "colloquial" English are very selective, and most of us would disagree with a fair number of the phrases taught. One example for the Americans on this board would be "almost". Do you say ALmost, ummost, mmmost or most? Which should be taught. And what is the "colloquial form" for "how are you?" Obviously there is no one correct answer.
Irish, as stated, doesn't use intonation for many things. You need emphatic particles to account for the lack of intonation-as-emphasis. You need to repeat "agus" multiple times to account for the lack of list intonation. Questions aren't intonated, instead relying on particles and question words. The only intonation feature that has been remarked upon in this thread is the use of
continuation intonation during storytelling sessions to prevent interruption (the musically-minded might want to think of this in terms of "resolution" - the only line that typically ends on a low tonic note would be the last line of a section).
The authors of BC didn't have access to a modern statistical corpus, so would have been relying on the same flawed human intuition as the rest of us, so would have been prone to either direct interference from English, or to selectively choosing a (possibly minority) feature from an English-influenced dialect.
Either way, take nobody's word for it.