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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2014 12:55 am 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
"Is" and "tá" are explained here too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ielcFYr ... ploademail


...b'shin bealach iontach leis an rud a mhúineadh, caithfidh mé a rá.
Meas tú 'bhfuil na rudaí sin ar an scáileán ar fáil le híoslódáil ar do ríomhaire nó ar do ipad, nó ar rud eicint mar sin...
nó fiú na míreanna múinteoireachta mar shraith ar dlúthdhiosca, seans...

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Mar 2014 2:16 am 
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Braoin wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
"Is" and "tá" are explained here too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ielcFYr ... ploademail


...b'shin bealach iontach leis an rud a mhúineadh, caithfidh mé a rá.
Meas tú 'bhfuil na rudaí sin ar an scáileán ar fáil le híoslódáil ar do ríomhaire nó ar do ipad, nó ar rud eicint mar sin...
nó fiú na míreanna múinteoireachta mar shraith ar dlúthdhiosca, seans...


Tá na físeannaí uilig agus an App seo le fáil ar an suíomh atá acub -

http://lurgan.biz/oide-2014/2-downloading-the-app/

Níl fón cliste agamsa so níl'fhíos'am cé chaoi a n-oibríonn sé.

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Mar 2014 6:49 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Níl fón cliste agamsa so níl'fhíos'am cé chaoi a n-oibríonn sé.

Níor chuala an frása "fón cliste" riamh, GRMA!

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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
Níl fón cliste agamsa so níl'fhíos'am cé chaoi a n-oibríonn sé.

Níor chuala an frása "fón cliste" riamh, GRMA!


:D

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PostPosted: Thu 08 May 2014 10:18 pm 
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I have a few more sentences I was wondering if anyone could have a look at point out the blindingly obvious mistakes ive no doubt made before :)
I realize the sentences probably get progressively worse as they are progressively get harder for me and its getting later with each attempt.

ní raibhas riamh ar mo shuaimhneas ann. ( I was going for something similar to. I never felt at home there)

tá dúil mhór agam as áit mo chónaithe ( I was going for something similar to -I love where I live. )

Tá Gaelainn ag na bhformhór na ndaoine. -Nearly Everyone can speak Irish here..

Ní bhíonn cuid de na t-aos óg ag caint Gaelainn go minic -some of the young people don't speak it much

Tá Gaelainn briste ag an beagán an chuid t-aos óg eile -and a few have broken Irish

mar ní bhainid puinn úsáide as é le heagla go dearúd a dhéanamh orthu. An mó is trua é -because they don't use it much and are shy to speak it. .its a pity.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 May 2014 8:39 am 
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Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:
I have a few more sentences I was wondering if anyone could have a look at point out the blindingly obvious mistakes ive no doubt made before :)
I realize the sentences probably get progressively worse as they are progressively get harder for me and its getting later with each attempt.

You learn by doing, so no worries about that, anyway let's start:

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ní raibhas riamh ar mo shuaimhneas ann. ( I was going for something similar to. I never felt at home there)

Raibhas => Rabhas (broad and slender rule in spelling)

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tá dúil mhór agam as áit mo chónaithe ( I was going for something similar to -I love where I live. )

Dúil would be closer to desire.

áit mo chónaithe might be a little formal (anybody else think anything here?), something like mo cheantar, or if it is where you're
grew up from mo dhúthaigh.

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Tá Gaelainn ag na bhformhór na ndaoine. -Nearly Everyone can speak Irish here..

Fórmhór na ndaoine is a genitive construction The majority of the people. Genitive constructions only
ever have one article, so this should be:
Tá Gaelainn ag formhór na ndaoine

Note in Kerry, you would hear:
Tá Gaelainn aige formhór na ndaoine

Since they pronounce ag as aige.

Also, just so you know, ag na is pronounced aigesna in Munster and it doesn't eclipse. Actually preposition + the plural article doesn't eclipse, only
preposition + singular article eclipses.

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Ní bhíonn cuid de na t-aos óg ag caint Gaelainn go minic -some of the young people don't speak it much

So:

1. Aos is singular, so it should take an rather than na as the article.
2. de + an combine into den
3. The t- prefix is not used after prepositions. Grammatically speaking it isn't used in the dative, only the nominative.
4. ag caint, being a verbal noun, cause the next noun to go into the genitive, literally "At the speaking of the Irish", hence ag caint na Gaelainne.
Ní bhíonn cuid den aos óg ag caint na Gaelainne go minic.

If I were actually saying this I'd say:
Bíonn cuid desna daoine óga..... There are some of the young people....
and then finish off about how they don't speak Irish. Something like:
Bíonn cuid desna daoine óga agus is annamh a chífeá iad ag caint na Gaelainne.

(Anybody else agree?)

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Tá Gaelainn briste ag an beagán an chuid t-aos óg eile -and a few have broken Irish

Gaelainn bhriste (Gaelainn is feminine so it lenites its adjectives.)

A few of the young people could be conveyed with roinnt/cuid bheag den aos óg. Beagán on its own can function
as a few people.

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mar ní bhainid puinn úsáide as é le heagla go dearúd a dhéanamh orthu. An mó is trua é -because they don't use it much and are shy to speak it. .its a pity.

Since prepositions are inflected in Irish, as will contain the é:
asam = as + mé
asat = as + tú
as = as + é
aisti = as + í

Since Gaelainne is feminine, we are looking for as + í = aisti. Embarrased to speak it, might be conveyed by Cuireann sé náire orthú í a labhairt.

I hope that helps!
(Anybody else feel free to correct.)

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PostPosted: Mon 12 May 2014 10:08 am 
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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Raibhas => Rabhas (broad and slender rule in spelling)
oops must have been a typo :)

An Lon Dubh wrote:
Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:
tá dúil mhór agam as áit mo chónaithe ( I was going for something similar to -I love where I live. )

Dúil would be closer to desire.
would Dúil be ok to use in this context?


An Lon Dubh wrote:
Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:
Tá Gaelainn ag na bhformhór na ndaoine. -Nearly Everyone can speak Irish here..

Fórmhór na ndaoine is a genitive construction The majority of the people. Genitive constructions only
ever have one article, so this should be:
Tá Gaelainn ag formhór na ndaoine


Stupid I knew this rule :facepalm:




An Lon Dubh wrote:
If I were actually saying this I'd say:
Bíonn cuid desna daoine óga..... There are some of the young people....
and then finish off about how they don't speak Irish. Something like:
Bíonn cuid desna daoine óga agus is annamh a chífeá iad ag caint na Gaelainne.


You're version seems much better to me at least.


An Lon Dubh wrote:
Since prepositions are inflected in Irish, as will contain the é:

:bash:

Thanks a million. A good few of the things you pointed out I really should have realized when doing it initially. But hopefully the more I do and learn the less mistakes ill make which seem so obvious once pointed out.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 May 2014 11:22 am 
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Sorry, I kept your verb in my sentence, really it should be:

Bíonn cuid desna daoine óga agus is annamh a chífeá iad ag labhairt na Gaelainne.

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Thanks a million. A good few of the things you pointed out I really should have realized when doing it initially. But hopefully the more I do and learn the less mistakes ill make which seem so obvious once pointed out.

No problem! Same happened to me early on, you know things but you don't remember them actively.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 May 2014 1:15 pm 
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Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:

tá dúil mhór agam as áit mo chónaithe ( I was going for something similar to -I love where I live. )
would Dúil be ok to use in this context?


It's often used in such a context in Ulster Irish but the preposition should be i, not as: Tá dúil mhór agam san áit ina bhfuil mé i mo chónaí (or An Lon Dubh's version too).


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Errigal wrote:
Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:

tá dúil mhór agam as áit mo chónaithe ( I was going for something similar to -I love where I live. )
would Dúil be ok to use in this context?


It's often used in such a context in Ulster Irish but the preposition should be i, not as: Tá dúil mhór agam san áit ina bhfuil mé i mo chónaí or An Lon Dubh's version too).

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