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An Lon Dubh · **Joined:** Fri 30 Sep 2011 10:08 pm **Posts:** 1313

Breandán's got me there, I can only think of one exception lúthgháir , and even then, most say lúcháir.

Dáithí Mac Giolla. · **Joined:** Sat 01 Jun 2013 8:46 pm **Posts:** 466

On the word so, what would you use in in Irish in place of how I would generally use it.

Ill see yah later so.
Thats grand so.
Do you want a pint so.

I know its probably horrible English, but I suppose its a form of emphases ?

Breandán · **Posted:** Tue 21 Jan 2014 6:44 pm

Dáithí Mac Giolla. wrote:

On the word so, what would you use in in Irish in place of how I would generally use it.

Ill see yah later so.
Thats grand so.
Do you want a pint so.

I know its probably horrible English, but I suppose its a form of emphases ?

Now THAT is very Irish, i.e., Hiberno-English.

I think it is a direct translation of the Irish mar sin and very much the opposite of Béarlachas.

Isteach leat, mar sin. "In you go, then." literally "In with you, so." (but I've heard Irish people say the latter in English.)

Braoin · **Joined:** Sat 17 Sep 2011 11:52 pm **Posts:** 460

Breandán wrote:

Jay Bee wrote:

Ó Dónaill has the following:

Bheith tógtha le rud
Thóg an madra leis na páistí láithreach
Tá siad tógtha i gceart le chéile

Braoin wrote:

Bhí mé chomh tógtha sin le mo neacht nua...
I was 'so taken' with my new niece...

Surely the use of 'chomh' as an intensifier is Béarlchas? It's ugly enough in English (dar liom)

I think it is Béarlachas when used as an intensifier without a "result" or "consequence". That usage (without a "result" or "consequence") in English is very American. For that usage I'd recommend using an- as in Braoin's second example above.

But the parallel of the British English usage (i.e., followed by a "result" or "consequence") is in Dinneen as chomh ~ sin go ...

The 'result' or 'consequence' is understood but sometimes perhaps not said in the case of
Tá mé chomh tógtha sin le mo neacht...

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