It is currently Fri 22 May 2026 3:03 am

All times are UTC


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 64 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Wed 08 Jan 2014 11:33 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri 30 Sep 2011 10:08 pm
Posts: 1313
WeeFalorieMan wrote:
Táim ullamh chun "Cuid a Dó" a thosnú, a Loin Dhuibh. :D

Here you go:

Cúán Fithise notes.

_________________
The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Fri 10 Jan 2014 12:59 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 11:43 pm
Posts: 723
Location: Nua Mheicsiceo
Go raibh maith agat! I'll get to work on it right now. :reading:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Fri 10 Jan 2014 11:04 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue 15 Nov 2011 7:35 am
Posts: 1098
What I like about Munster is the delivery it's patterns produce in the reader -a strong, masculine sense of genuine earthiness

_________________
__̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.___


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014 12:14 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 11:43 pm
Posts: 723
Location: Nua Mheicsiceo
Still moving right along with Cuid a dó:nail:

I found a few typos:

Den scéal:
Bhíodar ag féachaint [space] ar a chéile …
Chonnacadar an rí féin ina shuí ar fhuairmín … i ngátar uisge na Life agus a bhí aghaidh aon duine …

Then, in the next sentence:
Bhí circín idir a lámhaibh aige.

Then, in the next sentence:
… bhí cliath ag Conghal á chur le cois na circe.

Desna nótaí (page 8):
Sin é cúis … Appears here in a past tense form …
Sid é This is
Is é seo This is
B'shid é This was/would be.
B'é seoThis was/would be
fios dom … (Am I right on this one?)

page 9:
Because these notes are in the same order as the story (which, by the way, is a very good idea), the Téanaidh oraibh explanation should be after the notes on Láthair.

Cé dhó go mbeimíd á dtabhairt … Literally: Who (is it) to him which we will give them.

Do leath a súile ortha Their eyes opened wide (with astonishment).
Do leath a mbéile ortha Their mouths opened wide (with astonishment).
In these two sentences it might be better to put "with astonishment" in brackets since they're not part of the actual literal sentence.

Dar leo They reckoned; Or so they thought (it might be okay to add "it seemed to them" or "so it seemed to them")
Cliath A splint

By the way, it was very helpful that you added the following 2 definitions; they are much closer to the original Gaelic and for me, this made it a lot easier to understand – instead of trying to puzzle through "standard" English:
Tá an cath tar éis dul i ndéine The battle is after becoming violent
Bhí an Life tar éis dul i ndísg The Liffey was after drying up (Personally, I'd have said something like "The Liffey was after going dry")

Sin a bhfuil agam anois. :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014 12:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri 30 Sep 2011 10:08 pm
Posts: 1313
Thanks, I've incorporated your suggestions and translations, including the one for Bhí an Life tar éis dul i ndísg.

You're right about Ní fios dom, although the details of and what it does are a bit complex, I'll put them in the notes to the next section. It's simple in Cork, but more complex in Kerry.

_________________
The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014 1:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 11:43 pm
Posts: 723
Location: Nua Mheicsiceo
One quick question:

Does fuairmín have an epenthetic vowel?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014 2:02 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri 30 Sep 2011 10:08 pm
Posts: 1313
WeeFalorieMan wrote:
One quick question:

Does fuairmín have an epenthetic vowel?

No and the r is broad, i.e it is really fuar-mín. I've updated it's definition in the notes, since I didn't give its exact definition.

_________________
The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jan 2014 3:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 11:43 pm
Posts: 723
Location: Nua Mheicsiceo
An Lon Dubh wrote:
No and the r is broad, i.e it is really fuar-mín. I've updated it's definition in the notes, since I didn't give its exact definition.
:GRMA:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Mon 13 Jan 2014 5:08 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat 18 Aug 2012 11:43 pm
Posts: 723
Location: Nua Mheicsiceo
I found one other typo in Cuid a dó in the 2nd sentence of the 2nd to the last paragraph:
Do leath a súile ortha.

I'm ready for Cuid a trí now.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Wed 15 Jan 2014 2:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue 15 Nov 2011 7:35 am
Posts: 1098
Keep up the good work lads!

_________________
__̴ı̴̴̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡ ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡π̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı̴̡̡ ̡͌l̡̡̡̡.___


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 64 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3604 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group