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 Post subject: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Thu 02 Jan 2014 12:04 am 
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The final story in the Sliabh na mBan pamphlet, here are the beginning of the notes. Some members might recognise the picture:

Cúán Fithise notes.

It concerns the story of the Leinster hero Cúán Fithise.

Spoiler: The picture is the perpetual motion sculpture in Naas.

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 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
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Some small typos removed and the explanation of Slua expanded, what a confusing word!

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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Spoiler: The picture is the perpetual motion sculpture in Naas.
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 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
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This is a brilliant story, so far! :D
It's one of those great old Gaelic stories that are rarely to be found in English. Thanks for posting this! :GRMA:

I think I spotted a few small typos here and there:

page 2, the 5th paragraph: The original is in Early Modern Irish and is not too difficult …
Peadar Ua Laoghaire's [his name should be in bold letters as it is on the rest of the page] modern Irish version is very faithful to the original.

Although Congal Cennmagair as a somewhat evil character in the story, [comma] he was …
Finally, [comma] the above contains …

page 3 1st paragraph: … neart sló Chúige Uladh go léir, agus tháinig sé isteach …
2nd paragraph: … le h-ionchas go ndéanfadh sé síocháin …
3rd paragraph: D'airigh Conghal na teachtairí a bheith ag teacht …

after : … meaning that the genitive is given by adding a consonant … [in "The Great Wee Falorie Man Dialect"]

after Fithis: Orbiting Little Hound [not Dog – which means a little hound that doubles back and circles around (orbits) the enemy, right?]

Tar éis teacht i gcomhacht dó – it's written as gcómhacht (with a síneadh fada) in the story, so one of them should be changed so that they match.

Slua – I personally would have mentioned "host" to the definition, but I probably just like that word because that's the way that I originally learnt it.

page 5: After In inead and I gcoinnibh: … with the following word in the genitive. [in "The Great Wee Falorie Man Dialect"]

Is é rud a dhein sé ná … The thing which he did was

It is the thing which he did, namely the messengers to send to [instead of "looking from"] him.

Miscellaneous comments:
I'm assuming that imighidh is the older spelling of imídh and is pronounced the same way?

In the example toward the bottom of page 5 there is: Cuireadh gach aoinne agaibh romham a mathair
First of all, there's no síneadh fada in máthair, but why is máthair in this sentence at all? It's not in the story. :dhera: Just curious.

On page 6, I think it might help beginners to mention what the actual comparative and superlative words are:
comparative níos
superlative is

Sin a bhfuil agam, a Loin Dhuibh. Go raibh maith agat arís.


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 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
PostPosted: Sat 04 Jan 2014 12:47 am 
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WeeFalorieMan wrote:
This is a brilliant story, so far! :D
It's one of those great old Gaelic stories that are rarely to be found in English. Thanks for posting this! :GRMA:

Yeah, I love it actually!

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I think I spotted a few small typos here and there:

Thanks, all corrected!

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Slua – I personally would have mentioned "host" to the definition, but I probably just like that word because that's the way that I originally learnt it.

Agreed.

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Miscellaneous comments:
I'm assuming that imighidh is the older spelling of imídh and is pronounced the same way?

Correct, but I've changed it to Imídh.

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In the example toward the bottom of page 5 there is: Cuireadh gach aoinne agaibh romham a mathair
First of all, there's no síneadh fada in máthair, but why is máthair in this sentence at all? It's not in the story. :dhera: Just curious.

I wrote as an example of its use, since I didn't want to put in the long sentence from the story. However on reflection the long sentence is the most relevant example!

Part two will be up either tomorrow or Sunday.

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 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
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I was thinking two things:

1. That for this an Sliabh na mBan, I would have, instead of seanchló and roman type. I'd just have the stories in modern spelling, followed by a completely phonetic spelling of the type used in Seanchas Amhlaoibh Uí Luínse, Scéal mo bheatha and Eachtra Phinocchio.

2. My plan for the next book we might tackle is Cín Lae Eibhlín Ní Shuilleabháin.

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 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
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This is like linguistic pr0n. If there were a rep system on this site, I would up vote you to infinity and beyond.


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 Post subject: Re: Cúán Fithise
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RobertKaucher wrote:
This is like linguistic pr0n. If there were a rep system on this site, I would up vote you to infinity and beyond.
AGOA :LOL:

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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Part two will be up either tomorrow or Sunday.
I better get to work on Cuid a haon so that I can try to keep up! If all goes well, I should be ready to move on to Cuid a dó by Monday or Tuesday, I think.
An Lon Dubh wrote:
1. That for this an Sliabh na mBan, I would have, instead of seanchló and roman type. I'd just have the stories in modern spelling, followed by a completely phonetic spelling of the type used in Seanchas Amhlaoibh Uí Luínse, Scéal mo bheatha and Eachtra Phinocchio.
That's a good idea. Even in the modern spelling version, I'd use words like neomat and leitir instead of nóiméad and litir – they're way more phonetic and they're in the dictionary.
An Lon Dubh wrote:
2. My plan for the next book we might tackle is Cín Lae Eibhlín Ní Shuilleabháin.
That's a very famous book that I've always wanted to read. I'd like to give it a go. :)


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RobertKaucher wrote:
This is like linguistic pr0n. If there were a rep system on this site, I would up vote you to infinity and beyond.
AGOA :LOL:
:?: er … Am I the only person who doesn't understand a word of this?


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