It's always easier to believe something when you want it to be true

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Is this Ciotaí Campbell in Gleann Fhinne (An Coimín)? If so, she's definitely a native speaker, and was, in fact, my bean a' tí when I was there this summer.

(She's also a real kick, and an amazing cook!)

Redwolf

Yes, the very woman and a very nice lady she is too

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She is! One day in class, she, her mom, her sister, and one of her daughters came in and let us ask them questions about life in the area...great fun!

Redwolf

I live in Ireland, I am Irish, I speak to other Irish people and from personal experience I have never found the evidence to support this blanket statement, when I tell people im learning Irish, I get a range of views, Generally supportive along with a few incredibly negative ones.

Whats more the research ive read on the topic shows that most Irish people are supportive of reviving Irish in some form as opposed to those who are against it. Of course you can always question the research, but its certainly a better indicator of general opinions rather than Ive observed X so X must be true for everyone.

Im also not sure where you get the idea that there is no wholly Irish speaking Village outside of Toraigh.

The language in the Gaelscoil and Galltacht are not completely different from that of the Gaeltacht, people often put far too much emphasis on where they diverge. Ive met many people in the Galltacht who look to native Irish as a marker, equally ive seen the enthusiasm for Irish shared by native and non native alike and feed of each other. Sure efforts could be made to improve some of the short failings of Galltacht Irish or help invigorate enthusiasm in Gaeltacht areas where it has waned , but I think both can support each other and often do, rather than just conflict with each other as some people seem to think.

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Bíonn rudaí maithe mall

"supportive"

I've wrote a bit about my views with people before on this topic and I suppose it comes down to perception. Personally, I don't use adjectives like 'supportive' as it strays too much into 'moral support' territory.

I don't believe there is desire because I don't see where the actualizing mechanisms are. Lots of people support an end to hunger, poverty, pollution and deforestation and overfishing yet don't do anything practical, nor actually can't anyways because the consensus (and by 'consensus' I don't mean the prevailing discourse but rather the system as it is) is orientated a certain way and currrently doesn't have enough internal 'degrees of freedom' to let everyone live the lives they want and make choices and act in a way that has deep 'moral' consequences (such as keeping the environment safe while still enjoying a 1st world life).

I can't, myself, see the practical support (read: action) being collectively taken to safeguard the language

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This sums it up for me! Very eloquently expressed. Although I have given up using the word, Galltacht.

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Me too!

Guys, I'm not trying to be unnecessarily argumentative, but the differences between the form of Irish or even what language one is speaking is not the main question. More salient is how strong the networks are and how powerful they are. Irish speakers don't hold the high ground economically, socially, geographically/land-wise, politically, educationally in the civil service, ecclesiastically or even in the home, and this I think, is a key problem

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I get what you're saying entirely. You're a realist. Truth is, if hypothetically the Irish people were given an ultimatum to either learn Irish in the next 10 years or scrap it altogether... I think laziness would prevail and the majority would vote to scrap. That's how most people are, and that's how they've always been. They don't want to do anything that's difficult unless they get an immediate relief or benefit from it.

As it is now, sure everyone or almost everyone is for maintaining Irish in some way, as long as they don't have to actually do anything for it. They hardly notice whatever comparatively minimal portion of their tax dollars is used to fund the language. But inconvenience them in even the slightest way in their daily lives, and my money says you'll see how indifferent (perhaps even hostile) they really are. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.