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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012 7:08 am 
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Bríd posted the word of the day, abhaile, town as an adverb. Someone please help me to understand in what context, home is use as an adverb.


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012 7:38 am 
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Bríd posted abhaile "home" adverb. This is used as in Tá mé ag dul abhaile anois. "I'm going home now."

"At home" is sa bhaile (or sa mbaile in Connemara).

Abhaile is certainly related to baile, which can mean both "home" and "town", probably from Old French under the Normans. from Old Irish baile "place, homestead, town, city".

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Grma a Breandán.


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 Post subject: Re: Ceist
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Sassy Lassie wrote:
Bríd posted the word of the day, abhaile, town as an adverb. Someone please help me to understand in what context, home is use as an adverb.



Baile - can be "home" or "town", you will know from context.

Abhaile - is "home" only.

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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012 11:40 am 
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abhaile means homeward and is therefore an adverb since it tells us more about the verb.

Chuaigh mé abhaile - I went towards home (homeward)
Shroich mé abhaile / Bhí mé abhaile can't be used and don't make sense, as I understand it.


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PostPosted: Wed 25 Jul 2012 1:16 pm 
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Btw not everybody uses "abhaile", it's mainly Munster and Connachta, I think.
In Ulster at least, people use "chun an bhaile" (pronounced "na bhaile") instead.

Chuaigh mé 'na' bhaile = I went home.
D'fhan mé sa bhaile = I stayed at home.

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I don't think that abhaile and baile would have anything to do with Norman French, as far as I know. The only word that I think you could connect to the French that's similar in Irish is - báille - which would come from bailli (bailiff) and that is very definitely Norman and I've explained it before.


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Leis an fhírinne a ráidht tá 'n focal "baile" giota beag cosúil leis an fhocal "ville" ach chan dóigh liom go bhfuil lá bainte eatarthu...

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franc 91 wrote:
I don't think that abhaile and baile would have anything to do with Norman French, as far as I know. The only word that I think you could connect to the French that's similar in Irish is - báille - which would come from bailli (bailiff) and that is very definitely Norman and I've explained it before.

Thanks franc, fixed above. :GRMA:

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