droch-mhachnamh

djwebb2021 · **Joined:** Thu 27 May 2021 3:22 am **Posts:** 1422

This is from Seanmóin is 60:

Quote:

Níl focal le teacht as a bhéal ach focal a chuirfidh droch‑smaoineamh éigin, nú droch-mhachtnamh éigin, isteach i gcroí gach duine a bhíonn ag éisteacht leis

How are droch-smaoineamh and droch-mhachnamh differentiated from each other? Both mean "bad thought"? Would you translate one of them by any other phrase?

Labhrás · **Joined:** Sat 03 May 2014 4:01 pm **Posts:** 1830

djwebb2021 wrote:

This is from Seanmóin is 60:

Quote:

Níl focal le teacht as a bhéal ach focal a chuirfidh droch‑smaoineamh éigin, nú droch-mhachtnamh éigin, isteach i gcroí gach duine a bhíonn ag éisteacht leis

How are droch-smaoineamh and droch-mhachnamh differentiated from each other? Both mean "bad thought"? Would you translate one of them by any other phrase?

I don't know.
But I think, I could imagine, that machnamh is a deeper way of thinking.
So: consideration, reflection, pondering

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2986

djwebb2021 wrote:

This is from Seanmóin is 60:

Quote:

Níl focal le teacht as a bhéal ach focal a chuirfidh droch‑smaoineamh éigin, nú droch-mhachtnamh éigin, isteach i gcroí gach duine a bhíonn ag éisteacht leis

How are droch-smaoineamh and droch-mhachnamh differentiated from each other? Both mean "bad thought"? Would you translate one of them by any other phrase?

I think droch-smaoineamh can have a “bad idea” meaning, something you can act on.
Machtnamh is just thinking, or possibly remembering a memory.

djwebb2021 · **Joined:** Thu 27 May 2021 3:22 am **Posts:** 1422

Thank you, Bríd. That makes sense. I'll keep smaoineamh for "idea".

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