AnCanúnaighe wrote:
lucys wrote:
Despite going to school in Ireland, I didn't learn Irish, because, well politics of the time I suppose. But that's no excuse.
Hi lucy, how are you gettin on?
This isn't exactly relevant to the original post, but I'm working on a project, a big part of which has to do with the decline and revitalisation of Irish, why it's failing, things that were done wrong, issues with education, social and political currents pertaining to the language etc... and I'd like to ask what you meant by the
politics of the time? I'm very interested in collecting people's opinions and experiences with the Irish language.
Hi,
I'm doing ok progressing on my project, thank you. I've got a lot of useful help here.
By what I meant by politics of the time and learning Irish at school.
Myself and my siblings were born between 1975 and 1985. We were born in England but moved to Ireland (Republic of) in 1980s. We had one Irish parent and one English parent. We all went to school in Ireland, a few different schools, all in Republic. We were all excluded from studying Irish as we had been born in England, even though Irish was a compulsory subject at the time according to Department of Education. Every Irish class, we went and sat in the library with all the other children who were not born in Ireland. It wasn't a choice that any of us kids or our parents made. We were just told kids born in England don't study Irish, that was Department of Education policy. It was the same at every school each of us went to and applied to us all, i.e. even my youngest sibling who had never been to school in England as he was too young. I mention that, as I think, with older kids who had already done some schooling in England, I think you could say the exclusion may have been as they felt we would not be able to catch up as we'd missed vital early years of Irish teaching at primary school. I suppose I just feel this was a bit political. I remember at my secondary school there was a tannoy system and they used to actually make announcements like "Could all children born in England please report to the headmaster's office?" and it would be to tell us there was an Irish trip we couldn't go on or something.
I don't think it is like this now. I have two nephews currently going to school in Dublin who were not born in Ireland and they do Irish same as all the other kids. This is no excuse for me to not know Irish - many people who never learnt Irish at school have learnt since - but I felt like there was some politics going on and we were like unwanted, we weren't Irish enough to do anything involving the Irish language. It certainly didn't encourage us excluded kids to feel good about the Irish language.
Lucy