msv133 wrote:
Is there any reason I should expect Tabhair (to give) to be pronounced toor (or choor)? Are there are other words where abhai turns into an "oo" sound?
Thanks so much! I've been learning Irish for awhile now from Duolingo, Learn Irish/ Bite Sized Irish youtube, and some CD's I have, but I think it's time I start posting to this forum with my questions.. So expect to see more of me around! Peace out!
Tabhair is pronounced túir, yes.
This verb has various suppletive conjugated forms (like "I go" and "I went" in English, which have different origins, but are now in the same paradigm). Tugaim, tabhair and bheirim (an older form of tugaim) are in the same paradigm.
The original had as the absolute form "do-bheirim".
The absolute form means the form like táim that is used where not following certain particles; the dependent form is a form like fuilim used after ní, an, nách, go, etc. So in the verb "to be", there is "táim" "níl <ní bhfuil" and "an bhfuil?"
In a similar way, this verb had do-bheirim in the absolute. The dependent was "ní thabhraim" or "ní thiúbhraim" as it was once written too. This is because the dependent forms often had a different stress to the absolute. do-BHEIRim is absolute, but the dependent saw the stress put in on the first syllable: DO-bheirim. The ú pronunciation derived from the pronunciation of this DO- once the following bh is vocalised.