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 Post subject: some new words
PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2023 11:59 pm 
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Net zero: neódracht, neódracht carbóin
Low emissons: astaíochtaí ísle
AI: íntleacht shaorga
Big data: olltiomsú sonraí
Trans woman (nonsense concept, but it exists in the culture so..): brean thras-ínscneach
Genderfluid (ditto): so-lúbtha ó thaobh ínscne dhe/ínscne-sho-lúbtha
Queer: cam/lúbtha (both said to be offensive)


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2023 12:54 am 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
Net zero: neódracht, neódracht carbóin
Low emissons: astaíochtaí ísle
AI: íntleacht shaorga
Big data: olltiomsú sonraí
Trans woman (nonsense concept, but it exists in the culture so..): brean thras-ínscneach
Genderfluid (ditto): so-lúbtha ó thaobh ínscne dhe/ínscne-sho-lúbtha
Queer: cam/lúbtha (both said to be offensive)


I'm not sure of the context here. Are you saying these are your preferred choices for translating these terms, or simply stating that they exist?

As with all modern terms, I'm more interested to know what is actually in use than what is suggested by dictionaries, etc.

Neodracht just means neutrality, hence neodracht carbóin = "carbon neutral", so I assume you're drawing attention to the unnatural or otherwise disagreeable use of these terms?


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2023 1:47 am 
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Most of them are from tearma.ie

If you believe they're not in use, what terms actually are in use? Or maybe Gaeltacht speakers say "Net Zero" in English.


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2023 2:15 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
Most of them are from tearma.ie

If you believe they're not in use, what terms actually are in use? Or maybe Gaeltacht speakers say "Net Zero" in English.


Net Zero strikes me as a domain-specific term. I don't know if Gaeltacht speakers would often have occasion to use it in day-to-day life. I can't remember the last time I used the term even in English.

If someone were to have a conversation in which "net zero" were a relevant concept, it seems likely to me that the conversation would be had in English, even if the person using the term were a native Irish speaker. Perhaps it is used on Irish news shows from time to time, in which case I suspect presenters will defer to the likes of tearma.ie, but I have no way of knowing what a majority of native speakers would do in any of these cases.

What I will say is that the term aiteach seems to have become accepted as the standard, non-offensive translation for "queer". This is the only suggested translation on tearma.ie if you search for "queer", and the first hit on focloir.ie too. You actually have to do some digging to find the offensive forms you've given here. I suspect these offensive terms have been in use for at least as long as aiteach has been used without implied offence, so surely these are not "new words" as the thread's title suggests.


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Fri 13 Oct 2023 10:35 pm 
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I dont know about Gaedhealtacht speakers of Ireland. But personally I just say words in English such as that, after reading about Séamus Ó Grianna my attitude towards Irish is the same as his almost, I dont really use the artificially created/modern words and usually have to look them up when I come across them. I might still say it in Irish but with the random English word mixed in. dunno.


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Sat 14 Oct 2023 12:41 am 
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Ceanntuigheoireacht6 wrote:
I dont know about Gaedhealtacht speakers of Ireland. But personally I just say words in English such as that, after reading about Séamus Ó Grianna my attitude towards Irish is the same as his almost, I dont really use the artificially created/modern words and usually have to look them up when I come across them. I might still say it in Irish but with the random English word mixed in. dunno.

My blogpost about making the language up and all the ridiculous new words is at https://corkirish.wordpress.com/making-the-language-up/


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Sat 04 Nov 2023 12:41 pm 
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Native speakers use íntleacht shaorga in writing but say "AI, an t-AI".

Na hataí bána is an old phrase for gay men.

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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Sat 04 Nov 2023 2:31 pm 
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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Native speakers use íntleacht shaorga in writing but say "AI, an t-AI".

Na hataí bána is an old word for gay men.


Thank you. I didn't know that.


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Thu 09 Nov 2023 1:39 pm 
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political correctness: an cheartaiseacht pholaitiúil
virtue signalling: cómharthaíocht súáilce


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 Post subject: Re: some new words
PostPosted: Sat 11 Nov 2023 1:49 pm 
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Is teanga nua-aimseartha í an Ghaeilge atá ag obair i gcomhpháirtíocht agus á maoiniú ag roinn na ríomhchláiritheoireachta agus códála agus forbraítear go huathoibríoch í ag an gcoiste tearmaíochta a bhfuil forbairt agus caighdeánú na Gaeilge (go normálta go leibhéal atá neamhfheicthe roimhe seo) mar mhisean agus mar phríomhaidhm acu. Tá seirbhísí poiblí á gcur ar fáil ag rialtas na hÉireann agus tá siad comhoiriúnach le scrios na sean-téarmaíochta atá ag an sean-mhuintir nach bhfuil aon oibliogóid úsáideoireachta nó sochtheangeolaíochta acu i réimse na n-uathmheaisíní mbainc atá in ollscoileanna trí mheán na hardteistiméireachta ardleibhéil agus trí mheán na hardteicneolaíochta. Tá véarsa amhráin ar mo veist agus deireann sé go bhfuil an coróinvíreas pandéimeach ar siúl ach go bhfaighimid, mar veidhleadóirí a bhíonn an-neirbhíseach nuair a fhaighimid ar heileacoptairí agus ar vaigíní agus faigheann muid x-gha sa zú. Faoi láthair tá muid ag caint faoi éifeacht agus faoi stádas na cibearbullaíochta ar chúrsaí sóisialta, vaicsíneacha (antathubstaint, drugaí, srl) mothúchánacha, vótálacha, vardrúis, agus geopholiticiúla, agus faoi stádas a bhaineann le jeaicéid agus le jobanna ar veigeatóirí atá incháilithe chun a bheith ina saoránaigh i saorstát poblachtánach, idirreiligiúnach, idirchultúrtha na hÉireann. Anois tá muid ag úsáid na Gaeilge chun rudaí próiseasacha maidir le aerghrianghrafadóireacht, géarpholaifhréamhán-néarapaite dhímhiailinitheach athlastach, agus intleacht shaorga a phlé. Tá daoine tras-inscneacha ag iarraidh olltiomsú sonraí maidir le fótaisintéis, glúcós, bithéagsúlacht na Brasaíle, agus srl. Tá tvít scríofa agam ar na meáin shóisialta a deireann go bhfuil seirbhísí an fhóin phóca agus bogearraí, róbat, móibíleach, anailísíocht, hómafóibeach, aerach, á n-uaslódáil agus á n-íoslódáil agam go n-iompórtálfaidh mé iad le linn an toghcháin leanúnaigh. Tá cóip mo thiomántáin ag éirí plódaithe le haischlibí agus le fotha nuachta, agus tá seasca duine mar leantóirí agam ar mo phróifíl nó dearfá mo chainéal iútúib, bíonn siad ag cliceáil ar m’fhíseáin agus ar mo vlaganna (is vlagadóir mé) laethúla. Tá mórchriptiúchán á ionchódú agam, tá eangach dronuilleogach ilmhodúlach phleanála á fheiceáil agam, agus tá mé ag clóscríobh an ríomhphoist seo chugat i do bhosca isteach mar tá féinín agam díot nuair a bhí muid ag códáil. Tá mo phróifíl príobháideach, neamhphoiblí, tá na cúrsaí eacanamaíochta á laghdú i bpraghas sa tsochaí chomhaimseartha in áiteanna uirbeacha agus nuafhorbartha maidir leis an meabharshláinte agus drugaí. Tá cáin ghnóthachan caipitiúil le íocadh agam inniu, níl sé féaráilte. Tá na rudaí seo ar amchlár na nGael-iarbhunscoileanna seo sa státchóras. I m'eispéiris, tá ról na peirspictíochta liobraíochas san earnáil seo focáilte sa daonáireamh tríbhliantúil, agus tionólfaidh muid comhdháil mhúscailte feasachta ar son tacaíochta trasphobail don ascalascóp ga-chatóideach ar son an fheimineachais athleasaithe agus úrscéalaíochta agus tragóidí a bhaineann le ídiú na nGaeilgeoirí uirbeach i sráidbhailte Gaeltachta. Ach tá tuirse chomhbhá orm mar tá frith-bhriochtchuarc ag na daoine sin ar na sobalchláir a bhfuil túsdrugaí acu. Tá buanfhadhb ag baint le céimeanna máistreachta i réimse na heirgeanamaíochta, mar tá alcól agus galtoitín ag baint le leictreachas atá á dtacú ag buneagraíochtaí nuabhunaithe charthanacha, agus ríomhaireacht chandamach agus criptea-airgeadra, agus trashumanachas. Bhuel, bí réasúnta agus aontaíonn tú liom, go siúráilte é sin. Is ábhar conspóideach atá i gceist, ach níl an bille a fhaighimid ón Rialtas réasúnta. Tá staitisticí matamaiticiúla agus calcalais ábalta idirbheartaíocht a eagrú agus a ordú go hidirchondaetha mar na gnáthdhéagóirí maidir le infheisíocht. Chun conclúid a chur leis an ríomhphost leictreonach seo, deirim leat agus deirim gan dabht leat nach féidir linn níos mó creidmheasanna cánacha atá ag comaitéireacht a easpórtáil ón tír nua-aimseartha seo a bhfuil teanga nua-aimseartha róbatach aici?


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