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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jun 2023 3:50 pm 
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Hello,

There is this information about a reconstructed Celtic suffix -tus https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Celtic/-tus, which would have derived into Old Irish -ed and Iris -eadh. Those suffixes will transform verbs into nouns. However it does not mention any source for this information.

Any information about sources and reference (online) books is welcome! :)


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Jun 2023 8:18 pm 
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One source would be Stair na Gaeilge, chapter 2 An tSean-Ghaeilge agus a Réamhstair, § 30.5, p. 175:

Kim McCone, SnaG wrote:
Cuireadh -mā le cinn eile ach is le cuidiú na hiarmhíre f. *-tu- a bunaíodh ainm briathartha ar thamhan lagbhriathair de ghnáth: m.sh., L2a moídem ‘maíomh’ (gin. moídme) < *moið-i-ṽa < *moidīmā (6.2a; t. l. -moídi), L1 marbad ‘marú’, léiciud ‘ligean’ (gin. marbth-o/-a, léicth-eo/-ea; 18.2) < *marw-a-θuh, *lēg-i-θuh < *-ā-tus, *-ī-tus (6.4). D’úsáid cúpla tréanbhriathar *-tu- freisin ach bhí *-mu níba choitianta, go háirithe i gcás S2; m.sh. mess ‘meas’ (gin. mess-o/-a) < *med-tus- (6.2; t. l. -midethar), gním ‘gníomh’, dénum ‘déanamh’ (gin. gním-o/-a, dénm-o/-a) < *gnī-mu-s, *de-gnī-mu-s (*gnī- < *ĝneh₁-?). (…)

[The ending -mā was added to other ones but it’s with the help of masc. ending *-tu- that typically verbal nouns were formed from weak verb stems: e.g., W2a moídem ‘boasting, declaring’ (gen. moídme) < *moið-i-ṽa < *moidīmā (6.2a; pres. indic. -moídi), W1 marbad ‘killing’, léiciud ‘letting, allowing’ (gen. marbth-o/-a, léicth-eo/-ea; 18.2) < *marw-a-θuh, *lēg-i-θuh < *-ā-tus, *-ī-tus (6.4). A few strong verbs used *-tu- too but *-mu was more common, especially in the case of S2; e.g. mess ‘judging, estimating, opining’ (gen. mess-o/-a) < *med-tus- (6.2; pres.indic. -midethar), gním ‘acting, doing’, dénum ‘doing’ (gen. gním-o/-a, dénm-o/-a) < *gnī-mu-s, *de-gnī-mu-s (*gnī- < *ĝneh₁-?). (…)]


But it’s not easily (legally) available online.


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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jun 2023 2:10 am 
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Thank you! Very interesting information.


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