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PostPosted: Wed 29 Mar 2023 12:12 am 
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Hello there!

I've slowly been working on the phonetic pronunciation of the full version of St. Patricks Breastplate as can be found in this post:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=753

I'm currently working on this part:

togairm Trindóit,
cretim Treodatad,

I'm using this website to help me out: https://abair.ie/
It's a pretty amazing website. I can get someone to read it from northern, middle or southern Ireland. That being said I still could use a bit of help.

Trindóit: chrin-dot ?? I'm definitely hearing a Ch as in "chug" followed by an r sound

Treodatad: This also seems to start with a Ch sound and then Oh

Am i correct here? Is there some sort of general rule where Tr makes a Ch sound?

As far as translation, that post says it translate to:
The invocation of the trinity,
The belief in the threeness,

Any corrections anywhere are appreciated. Thank you so much!
Thank you!!


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PostPosted: Wed 29 Mar 2023 8:40 am 
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It doesn't make any sense to try to use abair.ie to find out the pronunciation of Old Irish, a language no-one has spoken for 1,000+ years. The current word for Trinity is tríonóid, not trindóit. I think what you are looking for is a course in modern Irish. I would suggest the 1961 edition of Teach Yourself Irish.


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