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PostPosted: Sun 21 Mar 2021 8:37 pm 
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Hi!

Actually, I'm a complete rookie so I'm kindly asking help to you.
I'm trying to translate in Gaelic Irish the following easy phrase:
"Man of Rohan" and I found: "Fear Rohan".
Is it correct?

In the end I'd like to know the translation in Gaelic Irish of my name "Federico" or "Frederick".
I found "Feardorcha", is it correct?

I hope I explained well, thank you very much for your precious help!

Have a nice day!


Fede


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar 2021 1:04 am 
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KikkoKawa wrote:
Hi!

Actually, I'm a complete rookie so I'm kindly asking help to you.
I'm trying to translate in Gaelic Irish the following easy phrase:
"Man of Rohan" and I found: "Fear Rohan".
Is it correct?

In the end I'd like to know the translation in Gaelic Irish of my name "Federico" or "Frederick".
I found "Feardorcha", is it correct?

I hope I explained well, thank you very much for your precious help!

Have a nice day!


Fede


Yes, 'Feardorcha' is correct.

'Man of Rohan', without context, may not be as simple to translate as you think. Is 'Rohan' a personal name or a place-name? In its full form, would it be 'The man of Rohan' or 'A man of Rohan'? To give us a better idea, put it in a complete sentence.


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar 2021 8:32 am 
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I'm guessing that in this context, the use of the word Rohan would be as a family name - the Rohan's have played an important role in French history, they have Breton roots and take their title from the town in Brittany. There are pages on Wikipedia about them in English, French and Italian.


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar 2021 11:18 am 
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Feardorcha is a Gaelicization for Frederick (i.e. usage of a similar sounding Irish name) but not a "translation" in a strict sense.

Frede- = saoirse
-rick = rí
So, an exact translation would be perhaps "rí saoirse" ;)

Feardorcha means "dark man"


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar 2021 11:33 am 
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I forgot to mention that the name Rohan comes from the breton word - roc'han - which means a little rock - in fact it comes from the name given to a small rocky hill or summit where they built their first castle. They gave their own name to the town when they founded it.


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar 2021 12:18 pm 
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Hi! Thanks for the kind answers!
I will try to explain better :D

With "Man of Rohan" I mean like a citizen, or an army member of Rohan. But using the word "Man".
In this case, Rohan is the kingdom of "Lord of the rings" by Tolkien.

About the name "Feardorcha": is it a real irish name? So it doesn't exist a corresponding gaelic name with Frederick?
In fact I read on italian wikipedia that Feardorcha was translated by english people in "Ferdinand" in the past times.
But all other documentation I found say Frederick is Feardorcha.
But I can't understand the process.

In the meanwhile, many many thanks for your help!
Have a happy day

Fede


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Mar 2021 7:40 pm 
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Yes, Feardorcha is a traditional Gaelic name, though fairly uncommon now. Frederick the Great (of Prussia) is Feardorcha Mór in Irish.

(A) Man of Rohan: I would say Fear de chuid Rohan.


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Mar 2021 9:13 am 
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Good Morning!

Ok I see!
Thanks everyone for your precious help. It's really a fascinating matter.

The strange thing is calling your own child as a evil fairy legend ahah


Thanks again, I wish you a happy day :D


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