It is currently Wed 20 Jan 2021 6:32 pm

All times are UTC


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue 05 Jan 2021 8:10 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue 29 Dec 2020 11:47 pm
Posts: 2
My name is Sava. I'm from Ukraine and I'm localizing the boardgame called «Inis».
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/155821/inis

I would like to translate all the names and places according to Irish pronunciation. I've browsed many sites but very often there are several variants of pronunciation or no IPA guide at all. So far I know the Connacht dialect is mostly used.

I don't want to give Irish names an English pronunciation while translating. It's like writing the capitol of Ukraine as Kiev (russian pronunciation) instead of Kyiv (original Ukrainian pronunciation).

Would you be so kind to consult me with correct pronunciation of names and places?

Thank you, Sava

Arawn   [ˈarau̯n]
Balor   ['pbɑḷ-ɔr]
Bran   
Breas   
Cathbad   [ˈkaθvað]
Cathleann   
Conchobar   [ˈkonxovar]
Connacht    [ˈkɔn̪ˠəxt̪ˠə]
Cooley   
Cormac mac Airt   
Cú Chulain   [kuːˈxʊlˠɪnʲ]
Dagda   [daɣda]
Dana   
Deirdre [ˈdʲɛɾˠdʲɾʲə]
Dian Cecht   [dʲiːən kʲeːxt]
Diarmuid    [ˈdʲiəɾˠmˠədʲ]
Dyfed   [ˈdəvɛd]
Eriu   ['eeṛ-iu]
Fal (Lia Fáil)   [ˌl̠ʲiə ˈfˠaːlʲ]
Féth fíada   
Fianna   [ˈfʲiən̪ˠə]
Fili   
Fintan   
Fionn mac Cumhaill [ˈfɪon məˈkuːl]
Fir Bolg   [fʲɪɾʲ ˈbˠɔlˠəɡ]    [ˈfi(ə)rˌbələg]
Fomorians   FOV-or-uh
Geis   [ɟɛʃ]
Gráinne   [ˈgrɒnʲə]
Gaels   [ɡeɪlz]
Hy Breasil   
Havgan   
Inis Mona   
Kernunos (Cernunnos)   
Lug Samildanach   
Lugh/Lug   [luɣ]
Lughnasadh (Lughnasa)   [ˈluːnəsə]
Macha   [ˈmaxə]
Maelduin
Maeve   
Mannanan mac Lir
Milé   
Mebd   [mɛðv]
Milesians   
Morrigan   
Moytura   [:moi'thuur-ɑ]
Niall    
Nuada
Oengus   [oiŋɡus]
Ogham    [ˈɔɣamˠ]
Ogma   [ˈɒɡmə]
Pwyll   ['pui-łł] // [pʊi̯ɬ]
Rhiannon   [-hrï'ɑn-non]
Streng   
Tailtu   [ˈtalʲtʲu]
Tara   [ˈtærə]
Tír Na Nóg   [tʲiːɾʲ n̪ˠə ˈn̪ˠoːɡ]
Tuan   
Tuatha Dé Danann    [t̪ˠuəhə dʲeː d̪ˠan̪ˠən̪ˠ]


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 06 Jan 2021 12:13 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm
Posts: 2876
Sava wrote:
My name is Sava. I'm from Ukraine and I'm localizing the boardgame called «Inis».
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/155821/inis

I would like to translate all the names and places according to Irish pronunciation. I've browsed many sites but very often there are several variants of pronunciation or no IPA guide at all. So far I know the Connacht dialect is mostly used.

I don't want to give Irish names an English pronunciation while translating. It's like writing the capitol of Ukraine as Kiev (russian pronunciation) instead of Kyiv (original Ukrainian pronunciation).

Would you be so kind to consult me with correct pronunciation of names and places?

Thank you, Sava

Arawn   [ˈarau̯n]
Balor   ['pbɑḷ-ɔr]
Bran   
Breas   
Cathbad   [ˈkaθvað]
Cathleann   
Conchobar   [ˈkonxovar]
Connacht    [ˈkɔn̪ˠəxt̪ˠə]
Cooley   
Cormac mac Airt   
Cú Chulain   [kuːˈxʊlˠɪnʲ]
Dagda   [daɣda]
Dana   
Deirdre [ˈdʲɛɾˠdʲɾʲə]
Dian Cecht   [dʲiːən kʲeːxt]
Diarmuid    [ˈdʲiəɾˠmˠədʲ]
Dyfed   [ˈdəvɛd]
Eriu   ['eeṛ-iu]
Fal (Lia Fáil)   [ˌl̠ʲiə ˈfˠaːlʲ]
Féth fíada   
Fianna   [ˈfʲiən̪ˠə]
Fili   
Fintan   
Fionn mac Cumhaill [ˈfɪon məˈkuːl]
Fir Bolg   [fʲɪɾʲ ˈbˠɔlˠəɡ]    [ˈfi(ə)rˌbələg]
Fomorians   FOV-or-uh
Geis   [ɟɛʃ]
Gráinne   [ˈgrɒnʲə]
Gaels   [ɡeɪlz]
Hy Breasil   
Havgan   
Inis Mona   
Kernunos (Cernunnos)   
Lug Samildanach   
Lugh/Lug   [luɣ]
Lughnasadh (Lughnasa)   [ˈluːnəsə]
Macha   [ˈmaxə]
Maelduin
Maeve   
Mannanan mac Lir
Milé   
Mebd   [mɛðv]
Milesians   
Morrigan   
Moytura   [:moi'thuur-ɑ]
Niall    
Nuada
Oengus   [oiŋɡus]
Ogham    [ˈɔɣamˠ]
Ogma   [ˈɒɡmə]
Pwyll   ['pui-łł] // [pʊi̯ɬ]
Rhiannon   [-hrï'ɑn-non]
Streng   
Tailtu   [ˈtalʲtʲu]
Tara   [ˈtærə]
Tír Na Nóg   [tʲiːɾʲ n̪ˠə ˈn̪ˠoːɡ]
Tuan   
Tuatha Dé Danann    [t̪ˠuəhə dʲeː d̪ˠan̪ˠən̪ˠ]



At least 3 of those are Welsh.
Some are in English, anglicisations of Irish words.
Some are in older spelling, so the pronunciation isn't what it appears to be.

And a few of them I don't know at all.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jan 2021 2:22 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm
Posts: 2876
1 to 5 are Welsh
1 Arawn = WELSH

2 Dyfed = WELSH

3 Pwyll = WELSH

4 Rhiannon = WELSH
Rh is kind of a thrill or maybe it’s called alveolar tap similar to Irish, I’m not great at grammatical terms.

5 Havgan = WELSH correct spelling is: Hafgan. Pronounced HAHV gahn.

6 to 14 are English words
6 Tara - Teamhair in Irish

7 Cooley - Modern spelling: Cuaille, older spelling Cúalṅge -- Táin Bó Cúailnge

8 Fomorians - English word the Irish is: Na Fomhóraigh.

9 Fintan - Anglicisation of FIONNTÁN

10 Gaels -English

11 Milesians - English word
WIKIPEDIA: Whether the word "Milesians" came before or after the name Míl Espáine, which is the Irish form of the Latin Miles Hispaniae ("Soldier of Hispania") is uncertain. Joseph Lennon writes that "no Irish-language cognate of the word exists." and that "the word Milesian is not used to refer to the Irish with any regularity until the eighteenth century

12 Morrigan English word In Irish it’s: Mórigán - Mór-Ríoghain

13 Hy Breasil English word
WIKIPEDIA: The etymology of the names Brasil and Hy-Brasil is unknown, but in Irish tradition it is thought to come from the Irish Uí Breasail (meaning "descendants (i.e., clan) of Bresail"), one of the ancient clans of northeastern Ireland. cf. Old Irish: Í: island; bres: beauty, worth, great, mighty.
Despite the similarity, the name of the country Brazil, also spelled Brasil, has no connection to the mythical islands.

14 Moytura - English word, Anglaisation of the Irish: Maigh Tuireadh



15 Balor or Modern Spelling: Balar

16 Bran

17 Breas I think there should be a fada there: Bréas

18 Cathbad - Modern spelling: Cathbhadh

19 Cathleann - Caitlín

20 Conchubhair

21 Connacht

22 Cormac Mac Airt

23 Cú Chulainn

24 Dagda - Modern Irish: Daghda - the GH is silent

25 Dana

26 Deirdre

27 Dian Cécht

28 Diarmuid

29 Ériu - Modern Irish: Éire

30 Lia Fáil

31 Féth fíada - I’m not sure of the modern spelling: Féith fiadha or Féith fia or Fé Fia.

32 Fianna

33 Filí - poets

34 Fionn Mac Cumhaill

35 Fir Bolg - I think there should be an i there. Fir Boilg ??

36 Geis

37 Gráinne

38 Inis Mona - not sure if it’s Irish or English. Assuming it’s Irish.

39 Kernunos (Cernunnos) = Appearently Cern is Old Irish and the modern Irish is “corn” meaning a “horn”. I don’t know the rest of it. I’d only be guessing. The horned god.

40 Lugh Samildánach (modern: Lú)

41 Lughnasadh (Lughnasa) - Modern spelling: Lúnasa. In the older spellings the GH and the DH are silent.

42 Macha

43 Maelduin - guessing at pronunciation here: Máel Dúin

44 Maeve (English) = Méabh (Modern Irish) = Mebd (Old Irish) All 3 the same pronunciation

45 Manannán Mac Lir

46 Milé

47 Niall - English and Irish

48 Nuada - Modern Irish: Nuadha – the DH is silent

49 Oengus - Modern Irish: Aonghus

50 Ogham

51 Ogma - modern spelling: Oghma

52 Streng - Possible Modern spelling: Sreang –That’s the pronunciation I’m giving.

53 Tailtu - Wikipedia says the modern spelling: Tailte

54 Tír Na nÓg

55 Tuan

56 Tuatha Dé Danann


I made the following 3 recordings for you.
If anybody sees any mistake please comment on it.


https://app.box.com/s/ei5elerz9w50sgerq08058g1nl9100en

https://app.box.com/s/9mdazwvuz7qrl52rc6u1vbd63q9cn37o

https://app.box.com/s/qso18p9pigmzxzth5wkqf9blv3lma2uz


Also see these links:

Rhiannon pronounced by Emmzi
https://forvo.com/word/rhiannon/#cy

Maigh Tuireadh
https://www.logainm.ie/en/1166446?s=Maigh+Tuireadh


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jan 2021 4:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue 29 Dec 2020 11:47 pm
Posts: 2
Thank you very much Brid! It helps a lot and a big thank you for the audio!
I'm not sure about some vowels. Could you consult me online whenever you have free time and inspiration (to save the time)?
Here's my FB-profile https://www.facebook.com/sava.mykhats

Thank you for your time
Save


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat 09 Jan 2021 5:21 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm
Posts: 2876
You are very welcome.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 5 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 87 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group