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 Post subject: Months and days
PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019 10:05 am 
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I'm trying to translate this, but as the whole idea of dividing the year up into twelve months must have seemed quite contrary to the traditional Irish concept of the year, perhaps there exist other rhymes or poems that describe the way seasons and months are presented.

Thirty days has September,

Tá tríocha lá Méan Fómhair,

April, June and November.

Aibreán, Meitheamh is mí na Samhna orthu.

All the rest have thirty one,

Tá gach eile lá is tríocha orthu,

Except February alone,

Ach Feabhra aonair, (or amháin ?)

Which has twenty eight days clear,

atá fiche a hocht lá iomlán,

And twenty nine days in each leap-year.

Agus fiche a naoi lá gach uile bhliain bhisigh air.

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 Post subject: Re: Months and days
PostPosted: Sat 16 Nov 2019 11:33 pm 
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Thirty days has September,

Tá tríocha lá ag Meán Fómhair,

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All the rest have thirty one,

Tá gach eile lá is tríocha orthu,


Déarfainn: tá (aon) lá is tríocha ag an fhuílleach
(nó: tá aon lá déag is fiche...)

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Except February alone,

Ach Feabhra aonair, (or amháin ?)


ach amháin Feabhra

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Which has twenty eight days clear,

atá fiche a hocht lá iomlán,


a bhfuil ocht lá is fiche aige

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And twenty nine days in each leap-year.

Agus fiche a naoi lá gach uile bhliain bhisigh air.


agus naoi lá is fiche aige gach uile bhliain bhisigh

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 Post subject: Re: Months and days
PostPosted: Sun 17 Nov 2019 2:24 pm 
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franc 91 wrote:
I'm trying to translate this, but as the whole idea of dividing the year up into twelve months must have seemed quite contrary to the traditional Irish concept of the year, perhaps there exist other rhymes or poems that describe the way seasons and months are presented.

Irish calendar concepts had gone during christianization. ;)
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Thirty days has September,

Tá tríocha lá Méan Fómhair,

April, June and November.

Aibreán, Meitheamh is mí na Samhna orthu.

As Lughaidh pointed out, it is:

Tá 30 lá ag Meán Fómhair.

Doing so, you have to put ag before every single month: ag Meán Fómhair, ag Aibreán, ag Meitheamh ...
This makes the sentence quite long.

So, it's a good idea to use a pronoun like orthu or rather acu instead.
But in this case all month names must be put outside of the sentence:

Meán Fómhair, Aibreán, Meitheamh. ..., tá 30 lá acu. (Sept., April, June, ..., they have 30 days)

Or you use a phrase like this:

Tá 30 lá ag na míonna seo: Meán Fómhair, Aibreán, Meitheamh ... (These months have 30 days: ...)


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 Post subject: Re: Months and days
PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2019 10:14 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Months and days
PostPosted: Wed 04 Dec 2019 11:58 pm 
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Labhrás wrote:
Meán Fómhair, Aibreán, Meitheamh. ..., tá 30 lá acu. (Sept., April, June, ..., they have 30 days)

I think it should be acusan since you are contrasting them with the previous set.

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