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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul 2018 5:36 am 
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Dylan wrote:
only by checking the pronunciation tables near the back of the book does one see that a lenited "s" before "eá" becomes an /x'/ sound (like the German "ich" or English "Hugh") and not simply an /h/ sound as in most other cases.


I am so glad you mentioned this as I had no idea!

The only unfortunate thing is... I don't think there are any words in Irish that begin with seá
There at least are none in the Ó Dónaill dictionary and none that come to mind.

Would you mind clarifying and/or doublechecking in what instance this is the case? I really would sincerely appreciate it.

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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul 2018 8:45 am 
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Cúmhaí wrote:
Dylan wrote:
only by checking the pronunciation tables near the back of the book does one see that a lenited "s" before "eá" becomes an /x'/ sound (like the German "ich" or English "Hugh") and not simply an /h/ sound as in most other cases.


I am so glad you mentioned this as I had no idea!

The only unfortunate thing is... I don't think there are any words in Irish that begin with seá
There at least are none in the Ó Dónaill dictionary and none that come to mind.

Would you mind clarifying and/or doublechecking in what instance this is the case? I really would sincerely appreciate it.



The name Seán comes to mind. How is the vocative A Sheáin pronounced?


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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jul 2018 10:03 am 
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silmeth wrote:
The name Seán comes to mind. How is the vocative A Sheáin pronounced?

Seán
SHAWN
/s´ɑ:N/

a Sheáin
(uh) HHYAWÑ
/(ə) x´ɑ:n´/

An initial h in English words like "human" and "Hugh" generally is /x´/ (except in dialects that pronounce them "HOOman" or "HOO". In fact "human" was the word our German teacher used to introduce us to the slender German ch in ich, etc.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Aug 2018 5:27 pm 
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silmeth wrote:
The name Seán comes to mind. How is the vocative A Sheáin pronounced?

LOLLLL of course.... I guess the fact that no dictionary words start with a similar sound combination is probably a symptom of it being a borrowed word

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