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PostPosted: Mon 28 May 2018 12:09 am 
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Hello,
I have two questions regarding an Irish saying I would like to get as a tattoo when I visit Ireland.
1. Is the saying "There is no luck except where there is discipline" of Irish origin? I want to make sure it is not just some quote, but a saying that originated in Ireland.
2. What is the translation of this saying into standard Irish (CO)?
Thank you so much for your help! :D


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PostPosted: Mon 28 May 2018 11:57 am 
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fkiernan wrote:
Hello,
I have two questions regarding an Irish saying I would like to get as a tattoo when I visit Ireland.
1. Is the saying "There is no luck except where there is discipline" of Irish origin? I want to make sure it is not just some quote, but a saying that originated in Ireland.
2. What is the translation of this saying into standard Irish (CO)?
Thank you so much for your help! :D


There's this proverb:
Ní bhíonn (an) rath ach mar a mbíonn (an) smacht.
There's no prosperity except where there is discipline.

rath = prosperity, abundance, usefulness.


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PostPosted: Mon 28 May 2018 4:49 pm 
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Thank you so much! Would both (an) be included in the tattoo in order to be grammatically correct?


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PostPosted: Mon 28 May 2018 6:00 pm 
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fkiernan wrote:
Thank you so much! Would both (an) be included in the tattoo in order to be grammatically correct?


I'd prefer the version with "an".
Ní bhíonn an rath ach mar a mbíonn an smacht.


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PostPosted: Tue 29 May 2018 12:00 am 
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Labhrás wrote:
fkiernan wrote:
Thank you so much! Would both (an) be included in the tattoo in order to be grammatically correct?


I'd prefer the version with "an".
Ní bhíonn an rath ach mar a mbíonn an smacht.


I agree.

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Tue 29 May 2018 6:11 pm 
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thank you both for the input!


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