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PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov 2017 2:37 am 
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OK, I'm just realizing directions in Irish are a b**ch.
One part in particular has me baffled.

anonn == Over, to the other side
sall == to the far side, over, across


Am I missing something, or do these two words mean essentially the same thing??

BTW, I'm clear that
thuas == Up, stationary position above speaker
anuas == moving down (from above) towards the speaker
suas == moving up (to above) away from the speaker

etc.

It's just the anonn vs sall thing has me confused.
What, if any, is the difference between the two??


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PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov 2017 12:47 pm 
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Vitaee wrote:
OK, I'm just realizing directions in Irish are a b**ch.
One part in particular has me baffled.

anonn == Over, to the other side
sall == to the far side, over, across


Am I missing something, or do these two words mean essentially the same thing??


Yes.
anonn = sall
*sonn = anall ;)

*sonn isn't used. But it is in the dictionary ("thonn" isn't):
"sonn3, adv. Lit: Here; here below; hither."

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BTW, I'm clear that
thuas == Up, stationary position above speaker
anuas == moving down (from above) towards the speaker
suas == moving up (to above) away from the speaker

etc.

It's just the anonn vs sall thing has me confused.
What, if any, is the difference between the two??


Yes, a tricky one.
It is obviously a question of perspective, like anuas and síos, both meaning "down"
The part of "to/from the speaker" is obscure in anonn. And there's no sonn and thonn.
And even more tricky: the -onn and -all part are probably of the same etymol. orign (ol, al) though they are used as if meaning the opposite.

anonn: from (an-) "-onn" ("here") away ( = ... to the other side)
sall: to (s-) "-all" ("the other side")


Last edited by Labhrás on Mon 27 Nov 2017 7:49 am, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: Sun 26 Nov 2017 6:56 pm 
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Thanks much. That's one less thing about Irish that confuses me.
Only about a billion or so to go.

:GRMA:


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PostPosted: Mon 27 Nov 2017 3:02 pm 
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Ag luascadh anonn 's anall - swinging to and fro


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PostPosted: Mon 27 Nov 2017 9:25 pm 
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Labhrás wrote:
It is obviously a question of perspective, like anuas and síos, both meaning "down"


the key here is to always think of things relatively. so just hop and change your way of thinking, now, and it'll all come clean

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