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 Post subject: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Fri 09 Jun 2017 1:47 am 
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Munster speakers are going to kill me for ruining this. :LOL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lmLEvYdE5M

Old spelling as is in the book in the video:

Cé hé sin amuigh,
go bhfuil faobhar ar a ghuth
Ag réabadh mo dhorais dhúnta?
Mise Éamon an chnuic atá báidhte fuar fliuch
Ó shíor-shiúl sléibhte is gleannta
A laogh dhíl ‘s a chuid
créad a dhéanfainnse dhuit
mura gcuirfinn ort beinn dem’ ghúna.
Is go bhfuil púdar go tuigh
d’á shíor-shéideadh leat,
‘s go mbeinís araon múchta?

Is fada mé amuigh
fé shneachta is fé shioc
‘s gan dánacht agam ar aon neach.
Mo sheisreach gan scur,
mo bhranar gan cur.
Is gan iad agam i naon chor!
Níl caraid agam -
is danaid liom san -
Do ghlacfadh mé moch ná déanach.
‘S go gcaithfidh mé dul
thár fairge soir,
ó ‘s ann ná fuil mo ghaolta.

A chumann is a shearc
raghaimíd-ne seal
fé choilltibh ag spealadh na drúchta,
mar a bhfaighmíd an breac,
‘s an lon ar a nead,
an fiadh is an poc ag búirthe:
na héiníní binne
ar ghéigíní ag seinnm,
‘s an cuachín ar bhárra an iubhair ghlais,
Go bráth bráth ní thiocfaidh
ar bás i nár ngoire
i lár na coille cumhra.

Nach agamsa tá an sgéal
is measa fén ngréin.
Ar maidin is mé i dtúis m’óige,
‘S gur searbh gach éan
a labhrann leis féin
ar churrach nó ar thaobh móna.
Do rinneadh mo chreach,
is do sáruigheadh mo nead,
is do fághadh mé gan aon neach;
Is má tá sin ag teacht,
an fuacht d’éis an teas,
a ruin-Shearc, mo bheannacht féin leat.


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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Tue 13 Jun 2017 12:08 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2021 2:56 am 
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Excellent, the topic for this fine song already exists. About modern spelling, could there be something wrong to be found in the following?

"Cé hé sin amuigh a bhfuil faobhar ar a ghuth
ag réabadh mo dhorais dhúnta?"
"Mise Éamonn an Chnoic atá báite fuar fliuch
ó shíorshiúl sléibhte is gleannta."
"A lao ghil 's a chuid, céard a dhéanfainnse dhuit
mura gcuirfinn ort binn de mo ghúna?
's go bhfuil púdar go tiubh á shíorshéideadh leat
's go mbeadh muid araon múchta."

"Is fada mise amuigh faoi shneachta 's faoi shioc,
is gan dánacht agam ar éinne,
mo sheisreach gan scor, mo bhranar gan cur,
is gan iad agam ar aon chor!
Níl cara agam, is danaid liom sin,
a ghlacfadh mé moch ná déanach.
Is go gcaithfidh mé dul thar farraige soir,
Ó 's ann nach bhfuil mo ghaolta."

And a few things I've been thinking about...

At the end of the second verse, there seems to be 'is go gcaithfidh mé' in almost every version I'd be able to find in Internet; could it be translated kind of 'it is that I have to'? The same seems to apply with the last lines of the first verse as well.

And the last line, 'Ó 's'? What could be hidden there grammatically? I assume that Éamonn is forced to go east over the sea and his relatives are not there, but I cannot find a grammatical explanation.

Punctuation and capital letters. Maybe there is something missing, maybe something too much?


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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2021 5:08 pm 
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I probably should've deleted that video. :oops:

I don't really know much about the history of the song, I'll leave it for somebody with better knowledge to comment.


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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Sat 06 Feb 2021 5:55 pm 
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Fánaí wrote:
Excellent, the topic for this fine song already exists. About modern spelling, could there be something wrong to be found in the following?

"Cé hé sin amuigh a bhfuil faobhar ar a ghuth
ag réabadh mo dhorais dhúnta?"
"Mise Éamonn an Chnoic atá báite fuar fliuch
ó shíorshiúl sléibhte is gleannta."
"A lao ghil 's a chuid, céard a dhéanfainnse dhuit
mura gcuirfinn ort binn de mo ghúna?
's go bhfuil púdar go tiubh á shíorshéideadh leat
's go mbeadh muid araon múchta."

"Is fada mise amuigh faoi shneachta 's faoi shioc,
is gan dánacht agam ar éinne,
mo sheisreach gan scor, mo bhranar gan cur,
is gan iad agam ar aon chor!
Níl cara agam, is danaid liom sin,
a ghlacfadh mé moch ná déanach.
Is go gcaithfidh mé dul thar farraige soir,
Ó 's ann nach bhfuil mo ghaolta."

And a few things I've been thinking about...

At the end of the second verse, there seems to be 'is go gcaithfidh mé' in almost every version I'd be able to find in Internet; could it be translated kind of 'it is that I have to'? The same seems to apply with the last lines of the first verse as well.


Yes.

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And the last line, 'Ó 's'? What could be hidden there grammatically? I assume that Éamonn is forced to go east over the sea and his relatives are not there, but I cannot find a grammatical explanation.


ós = ó is = since is, because is
Because my relatives are not there ("since is there that not are my relatives")


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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Sun 07 Feb 2021 1:40 pm 
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ós = ó is = since is, because is
Because my relatives are not there ("since is there that not are my relatives")

Thank you. Now the grammatical part of 'ó 's' makes sence.


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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Thu 18 Feb 2021 7:05 am 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
I probably should've deleted that video. :oops:


Nooooo! I'm just seeing this and I love your voice!
I started as a kid learning the Munster dialect but I prefer the Conamara pronunciation. :D
But I really don't think it's THAT much different (doesn't sound like it) except for a few small places.

Maith thú, A Bhríd, a chara. :wave:


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 Post subject: Re: Éamon an Chnoic
PostPosted: Fri 19 Feb 2021 5:32 pm 
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tiomluasocein wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
I probably should've deleted that video. :oops:


Nooooo! I'm just seeing this and I love your voice!
I started as a kid learning the Munster dialect but I prefer the Conamara pronunciation. :D
But I really don't think it's THAT much different (doesn't sound like it) except for a few small places.

Maith thú, A Bhríd, a chara. :wave:


Ahh thanks Tim, that's sweet of you. :GRMA:


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