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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2011 3:27 am 
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I was just wondering if there was a collocations dictionary for Irish, such as Oxford's Collocation Dictionary. I've scanned a definiton from Oxford's:

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I've been recommending it to foreign students of English and was hoping there was something similar for students of Irish.

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2011 3:44 am 
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This is about the closest thing I know of:

http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/tobar/

(Looks like it has recently been updated so I am off to download it myself. :D )

Look forward to hearing of any others out there ...

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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2011 4:05 am 
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Breandán wrote:
This is about the closest thing I know of:

http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/~oduibhin/tobar/

(Looks like it has recently been updated so I am off to download it myself. :D )

Look forward to hearing of any others out there ...


Thanks again. I had an Tobar on my old computer a few years ago and forgot all about it after the crash. It is a fine resource!

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Nov 2011 10:59 am 
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Have you had a look at the new edition of Pota Focal? If you scroll down after the entries in Gluais Tí and Irishionary, you have Gluais Beo which gives the words you're looking for in context - try a basic word such as féidir for instance and you'll find plenty of examples of how it can be used.


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franc 91 wrote:
Have you had a look at the new edition of Pota Focal? If you scroll down after the entries in Gluais Tí and Irishionary, you have Gluais Beo which gives the words you're looking for in context - try a basic word such as féidir for instance and you'll find plenty of examples of how it can be used.


I'm getting a "Server Error in '/' Application" at the moment, so can't check it out. I have noticed this feature at Irish Dictionary Online.

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So what about colligation in Irish? Now that would be interesting :idea:


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Jay Bee wrote:
So what about colligation in Irish? Now that would be interesting :idea:


Ceangal? Cónasc?

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Colligation can be thought of as grammatical collocation


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franc 91 wrote:
Have you had a look at the new edition of Pota Focal? If you scroll down after the entries in Gluais Tí and Irishionary, you have Gluais Beo which gives the words you're looking for in context - try a basic word such as féidir for instance and you'll find plenty of examples of how it can be used.


I'm playing around on Pota Focal. Can someone please tell me what the gu, ai, and gi refer to in this:

focal ‹ainmfhocal, firinscneach›
‹gu: focail› ‹ai: focail› ‹gi: focal›


I've looked for an explanation of this on the site but I can't find anything. Help? ;)


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PostPosted: Thu 01 Dec 2011 4:53 pm 
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mimerim wrote:
I'm playing around on Pota Focal. Can someone please tell me what the gu, ai, and gi refer to in this:

focal ‹ainmfhocal, firinscneach›
‹gu: focail› ‹ai: focail› ‹gi: focal›

gu = ginideach uatha "genitive singular"
ai = ainmneach iolra "nominative plural"
gi = ginideach iolra "genitive plural"

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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