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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep 2015 9:36 pm 
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Welsh and Scots Gaelic, their consonants are not aspirated in voiceless consonants, AFIK, unlike English.

In the dialect books, they say they are, and the Lars Braesicke sites says they are not.

If you say words like 'ioc', there is no aspiration, while initially, with 'caoi', I make the puff of air.

So, what givies?

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep 2015 10:23 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
the Lars Braesicke sites says they are not.


Oops, the English translation is really in bad need of an update. :oops:

In the German version Irish voiceless consonants are of course aspirated:
http://www.braesicke.de/phonol.htm

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Die stimmlosen Konsonanten k, p, t werden im Irischen (ähnl. wie im Deutschen) gewöhnl. behaucht (aspiriert) gesprochen (d.h. eigtl. [kh], [ph], [th]).


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Sep 2015 11:10 pm 
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http://www.daltai.com/discus/messages/1 ... 1127491661

Lughaidh argues at the end of the thread that voiceless consonants are not aspirated. Is it due to an earlier misunderstanding?

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