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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2015 6:30 am 
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Gabh mo leithscéal for opening the thread here...

I need a thread for getting some common questions and for discussions about Irish... :)

First of all: I listen to an audio CD every day only a few tracks to sensibilise my sense of listening for this wonderful language. :)
I am surprised "how much" or that I knew some things.... I read in the past before.

My problem is that the most of Irish learning tools and helps are in Irish-English...and I am not a fluent English-speaker. So I have some problemes to translate over a non-native language. And the pronounciation guides are often like the English alphabet pronounced. Another way to think reversed. *lol*

Any hints for me? :)

Do we have any Germans here with the same problem?

Go raibh ma agaibh. :)

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2015 1:04 pm 
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http://www.abebooks.de/buch-suchen/tite ... -siadhail/

That's the course "Learning Irish" translated into German, so you can learn Irish through German. It's not an easy course, very grammar-heavy, but it should be pretty helpful one way or the other.


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2015 1:50 pm 
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Go raibh maith agat, Dylan. :)

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Aug 2015 3:43 pm 
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There are three (!) Irish courses in German:

- Ó Siadhail, transl. A. Wigger - Lehrbuch der Irischen Sprache (orig.: Learning Irish), Buske-Verlag
Probably out of print (?) because there is a new one by Buske:

- Niamh Leypold, Britta Schulze-Thulin - Irisch für Anfänger (with a CD), Buske-Verlag
https://buske.de/irisch-fuer-anfaenger.html

- Theresa-Susanna Illés, Arne A. Ambros - Sláinte!, Reichert-Verlag, 2006
http://reichert-verlag.de/autor/i/illes ... nte-detail


And a little phrase book:
- Lars Kabel - Kauderwelsch Irisch-Gälisch - Wort für Wort, Reise Know-How-Verlag
https://www.reise-know-how.de/produkte/ ... -wort-5538

A pronunciation trainer:
- Lars Kabel - AusspracheTrainer Irisch-Gälisch
https://www.reise-know-how.de/produkte/ ... h-mp3-1270


There's an Irish-German dictionary
- Caldas, Thomas Feito; Schleicher, Clemens - Wörterbuch Irisch-Deutsch
https://buske.de/woerterbuch-irisch-deutsch-5439.html


And there's a bilingual book (Irish and German) with literary texts from Cois Fharraige and the Blaskets:
- Durkin-Meisterernst, Desmond - Neuirisches Lesebuch, Reichert-Verlag
http://reichert-verlag.de/fachgebiete/s ... uch-detail


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug 2015 5:44 am 
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Labhrás wrote:
And a little phrase book:
- Lars Kabel - Kauderwelsch Irisch-Gälisch - Wort für Wort, Reise Know-How-Verlag
https://www.reise-know-how.de/produkte/ ... -wort-5538

A pronunciation trainer:
- Lars Kabel - AusspracheTrainer Irisch-Gälisch
https://www.reise-know-how.de/produkte/ ... h-mp3-1270


Go raibh maith agat, Lábhras...

These both I already own.... :)
And that is the CD I am listening at the moment.

To the other books there is no pronounciation trainer available, I think?
Ok...so I have to check every single word in the internet...

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Aug 2015 10:39 am 
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If you know the orthography and the sound system, the written form does a decent job of capturing how words are said

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I bought at the weekend a full version of the NEMO Irish App. :)
Was only 7 EUR.
It is nice to use....but I get confused with the pronounciation again.
Something different from the other CD I use...

Cead go leor. :D

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2015 3:12 am 
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Zurni wrote:

Go raibh maith agat, Lábhras...


... a Labhráis (vocative :))

Zurni wrote:
To the other books there is no pronounciation trainer available, I think?


There's a CD with Irisch für Anfänger:
PDF file for texts on CD: http://buske.de/media/wysiwyg/Downloads ... 574_HU.pdf

Zurni wrote:
Ok...so I have to check every single word in the internet...


You probably already know: http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/


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PostPosted: Tue 01 Sep 2015 6:58 am 
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Labhrás wrote:
Zurni wrote:

Go raibh maith agat, Lábhras...


... a Labhráis (vocative :))


OMFG..... :D

GRMMA.

But I remember to something I learnt "Dia dhuit a Siobhan"....so when you name a person you always put the "a" before it.

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Zurni wrote:
Labhrás wrote:
Zurni wrote:

Go raibh maith agat, Lábhras...


... a Labhráis (vocative :))


OMFG..... :D

GRMMA.

But I remember to something I learnt "Dia dhuit a Siobhan"....so when you name a person you always put the "a" before it.


... and this a causes lenition:
a Shiobhán :)
(BTW: not a Shiobháin because it's a female name wthout a vocative form)


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