It is currently Sat 16 Dec 2017 6:42 pm

All times are UTC


Forum rules


Please click here to view the forum rules



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon 27 Apr 2015 7:17 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:44 pm
Posts: 3367
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains, California, USA
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/educatio ... -1.2186677


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon 27 Apr 2015 11:19 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm
Posts: 2223
Is it possible to revive something that is still alive? (and to kill something that's already dead?)

_________________
Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne
:)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr 2015 4:47 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:44 pm
Posts: 3367
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains, California, USA
Lughaidh wrote:
Is it possible to revive something that is still alive? (and to kill something that's already dead?)


Yes, actually. It's very possible to breathe new life into something, and that's what this article is about.

Redwolf


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 5:44 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm
Posts: 2223
Looks like certain people will consider Irish as a dead language until the day 100% of the Irish people will speak Irish as their everyday language.

_________________
Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne
:)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 7:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm
Posts: 2600
I think maybe you are taking the word "revival" too literally a chara.
It's not like reviving something dead like a corpse.

This dictionary definition explains it better - "an improvement in the condition, strength, or fortunes of someone or something".


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 29 Apr 2015 11:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm
Posts: 1435
Alt ana shuimiúil is ea é! Ach mar sin fhéin, bheadh imní ort d'éis an ailt seo a léamh:

http://tuairisc.ie/coimisiun-eigeandala ... haeltacht/

Meastar ná fuil ach 20 bliain aig'n nGaoluinn mar theangain labhartha na Gaeltachta

Má's fíor é go bhfuil na húghdaráis dh'iarraidh bac a chur le foilsíú na tuairisce seo, óir go dtugtar moltaí, is náire ollmhór é dos na daoine a bhfuil an t-iallach ortha an teanga a chur chun cinn agus a chosaint!

_________________
Is Fearr súil romhainn ná ḋá ṡúil inár ndiaiḋ
(Amhlaoibh Ó Súilleabháin)

Please wait for corrections/ more input from other forum members before acting on advice


I'm familiar with Munster Irish/ Gaolainn na Mumhan (GM) and the Official Standard/an Caighdeán Oifigiúil (CO)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu 30 Apr 2015 2:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:44 pm
Posts: 3367
Location: Santa Cruz Mountains, California, USA
Bríd Mhór wrote:
I think maybe you are taking the word "revival" too literally a chara.
It's not like reviving something dead like a corpse.

This dictionary definition explains it better - "an improvement in the condition, strength, or fortunes of someone or something".


Yep...there's a big difference between "revival" and "resurrection." The former gives me hope that we'll never have need of the latter!

Redwolf


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu 30 Apr 2015 9:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu 15 Sep 2011 12:06 pm
Posts: 2223
Aye, so far I mostly read that word in the contexts of Hebrew, Cornish and Manx, that are all languages that died and were revived, that's why I thought it was possible only when the language has no native speakers left (and that's what the etymology says, re- + vivus in Latin, "alive again"). Probably also because so many people say Irish is a dead language, even people who do know it's still spoken...
Thanks for your explanation :)

_________________
Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne
:)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue 12 May 2015 9:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat 01 Oct 2011 12:03 am
Posts: 231
As soon as the language became middle class also, it has become safe for a good while yet


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed 13 May 2015 10:07 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed 19 Dec 2012 3:58 pm
Posts: 468
In English, the "viv" bit has lost its meaning. Most native speakers would consider the medical sense of "revive" to be to bring back to consciousness. The term "revival" also has specific usage in cultural context -- the repopularisation of marginalised traditions. The "folk revival" in the 60s/70s for example; or "revivalism" movements in religion (counter to increasing atheism and secularisation).

_________________
A language belongs to its native speakers, and when you speak it, you are a guest in their homes.
If you are not a good guest, you have no right to complain about receiving poor hospitality.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google [Bot] and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group