Someone I know is creating a memorial for the women in his family and would very much like a translation for the inscription. Since this will be permanently inscribed he wants to be certain that this is grammatically correct and would prefer modern standard Irish. Here is the phrase:

Dedicated to the women warriors who died in the struggle.

And here is the translation that I have so far:

Tiomnaithe do na laochra mná a maraíodh i streachailt.

Is this a good translation? If so, where can I obtain a phonetic pronunciation or a recording of it spoken correctly?

Here is the story behind the memorial:

This memorial is for the things the women in my Mom's family went through both long ago in Cork and generations later in Indiana and finally (for my Mom at least) Toledo, Ohio. All the men on the Irish side kept dying young in accidents and illnesses. This explains why my cousins and I all seem to have German family names.

None of those ladies ever had to pick up a gun, but what they collectively went through could fill a fairly gritty, sad, but ultimately uplifting book, if I ever get time to try to write down all the anecdotes I heard and overheard growing up.

With gratitude for any help that can be provided for this project,

Bob Midden

If you want to say - in the struggle - I suggest - sa instead of i, and as streachailt is a feminine noun you have to put a t in front of it - sa tstreachailt.

a maraíodh = were killed
a fuair bás = who died

I'd prefer "ar shon" instead of "tiomnaithe"- Meaning "for" or "on behalf of".


ar shon na laochra mná a fuair bás sa tstreachailt

After confirmation or corrections I can make a soundfile for you.

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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Thanks very much for these corrections!

Bob M.

Thank you very much for your help with this translation and for your generous offer of creating a soundfile for me! Can someone confirm this translation? I understand that this forum recommends confirmation before using a translation for a permanent application.

Bob Midden

Looks good to me, and FYI, Bríd is a native Irish speaker.

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I'm not a native (or entirely fluent) speaker, so be sure to wait for confirmations/corrections, especially for tattoos.

There's a small typo - it should be "sa streachailt".

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a bhfuair. Indirect object is the grammatical term I think?

Bob Midden, it's getting confusing now but I'll try to have it cleared up for you by the end of this post, I hope.

- As Murchadh says, it should be "sa streachailt".

- "a fuair (bás)" is correct; "a bhfuair..." is wrong. (It's a direct relative, Gumbi.)

- The "standard" form is "ar son" but "ar shon" is common in many parts of the Gaeltacht.

- Irish has a good word -"banlaochra" - = female warriors, heroines. (And wouldn't it be "laochra ban" rather than "laochra mná"?)

So, tweaking Bríd Mhór's version slightly: Ar son na mbanlaochra a fuair bás sa streachailt ('banlaochra' becomes 'mbanlaochra' here for grammatical reasons)

Well tweaked, a Errigal.

I can second this:

Ar son na mbanlaochra a fuair bás sa streachailt

And in old script:

Ar son na mbanlaoċra a fuair bás sa streaċailt

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