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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011 3:00 pm 
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In Munster the sound is the same...except as stated fearr has a longer duration (of the vowels)But divil a bit difference :nail: ..I just like the new smilies

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011 4:15 pm 
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This is the Conamara version -

fear ~ fearr
http://www.box.net/shared/2i5xu2n9nc7b4mcjo3ut

fear ~ fearr ~ féar

http://www.box.net/shared/g74q190s06y8hv9hnt1c

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011 5:09 pm 
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I’d say there’s a very slight difference in Ulster, but I think quite a few people there don’t make it.

The a in fearr is just a tad longer (though still not as long as an actual long a), and if it’s at the end of the utterance, the r is kept for just a fraction of a mora longer, too.

In general, though, I doubt anyone would really notice if you pronounced them the same, and in some contexts (before an n, for example), they are completely homophonous.


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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011 6:25 pm 
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Homophonous?..You better smile when you say that Pilgrim! :LOL:

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011 10:52 pm 
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Tiarnan wrote:
Homophonous?..You better smile when you say that Pilgrim! :LOL:

I always smile when yappering about language stuff. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011 11:30 pm 
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I've put in an email to a native speaker of Ulster Irish and I'll get back when I hear from him.

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2011 1:24 am 
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I've heard the "nn" sound so nasalized that it approaches a light "ng" sound, especially in words like tinn, linn, and bainne. In fact, I think my grandmother (native speaker from north-central Mayo) pronounced it that way, but my memories of how she spoke are fading, since she died over 40 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2011 9:35 am 
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Getting [ŋ] from (slender) ‹nn› is quite standard in many dialects, but mostly in the south. In the north, it usually stays [ɲ].

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
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kokoshneta wrote:
Getting [ŋ] from (slender) ‹nn› is quite standard in many dialects, but mostly in the south. In the north, it usually stays [ɲ].

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 Post subject: Re: fear/fearr
PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011 12:37 am 
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Got an email from my friend today. He is a native speaker from Ulster.

"Sílim go bhfuil fearr agus fear mar an gcéanna i gCúige Uladh." I guess he's saying I probably was hearing what I was hearing. Anyway...thought I'd pass that on.

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