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 Post subject: Ní thuigim …
PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014 8:51 pm 
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Does anybody know what go raibh sé curtha roimis aige means?

Here's the whole sentence:
Do réir a chéile, mar a mhéadaigh m'aitheantas air, thána ar an dtuairim go raibh sé curtha roimis aige, ó casadh mo leithéid ina chuibhreann, cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil.

Here's my attempt at a translation:
Gradually, as I got to know him better, I came to the opinion that … ? …, since the likes of me turned out to be in his company, to give an account to me of the great adventures of his life.

go raibh sé curtha roimis aige – ?


* edit: While I'm at it, I might as well ask about the sentence that comes after this one, too.
Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air.


Thanks for the help!


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PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014 9:19 pm 
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Do réir a chéile, mar a mhéadaigh m'aitheantas air, thána ar an dtuairim go raibh sé curtha roimis aige, ó casadh mo leithéid ina chuibhreann, cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil.

go raibh sé curtha roimis aige = that he had decided to do it, he had determined to do it.

The it refers to cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil.

I can't tell if cuibhreann is being used here in the general sense of company or its specific meaning of sharing a table and talking.

So in total:
As I got to know him better, I came to the opinion that he had decided, since my like had come to be in his company, that he would give me an account of his life.

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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014 9:26 pm 
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WeeFalorieMan wrote:
* edit: While I'm at it, I might as well ask about the sentence that comes after this one, too.
Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air.

Ní nach iontach = Unsurprisingly = (Literally) A thing which is not a wonder.

Cuímhneodh can mean think or remember, more commonly think. Could I have the paragraph or sentence or two before this? It could mean two different things depending on the context.

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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014 10:37 pm 
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The paragraph fills up half the page, but here are the 3 sentences before that one:

Ach ba gheairid an mhoill anois gur aithníos nár dhuine mar chách a bhí agam ach seanóir géarchúiseach stuamtha aibidh – go raibh fios a aigne féin go feille-bhinn aige. Dá chomhartha san, in ionad a bheith ag brath ar cheist uaimse chun é a bhogadh chun cainte, níorbh annamh a chuireadh sé ar bun scéal nó eachtra a thit amach do féin. Do réir a chéile, mar a mhéadaigh m'aitheantas air, thána ar an dtuairim go raibh sé curtha roimis aige, ó casadh mo leithéid ina chuibhreann, cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil.

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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2014 1:14 am 
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WeeFalorieMan wrote:
The paragraph fills up half the page, but here are the 3 sentences before that one:

Ach ba gheairid an mhoill anois gur aithníos nár dhuine mar chách a bhí agam ach seanóir géarchúiseach stuamtha aibidh – go raibh fios a aigne féin go feille-bhinn aige. Dá chomhartha san, in ionad a bheith ag brath ar cheist uaimse chun é a bhogadh chun cainte, níorbh annamh a chuireadh sé ar bun scéal nó eachtra a thit amach do féin. Do réir a chéile, mar a mhéadaigh m'aitheantas air, thána ar an dtuairim go raibh sé curtha roimis aige, ó casadh mo leithéid ina chuibhreann, cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil.

:GRMA:

My best shot.

'Twasn't long before I realised that I hadn't someone like others, rather a wise, sharp-minded mature godfather - who had good knowledge of his own mind (aware of his own wisdom? Not sure what the adverb feille means...). Because of that (Due to that/Due to that "sign"), instead of relying on a question from me to make him speak (bogadh chun cainte - to move to speak/cause someone to speak), it wasn't rare that he'd tell a tale or adventure (event) that happened to him. As I got to know him better, I realised (came upon the opinion) that he had decided to, since I ("my like") had come to be in his company, tell me of his life (eachtraí móra a shaoil.... what's the best English word for eachtra, event? happenings? They don't seem exactly right for me but you get the meaning :P).


Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air

I'm not actually sure what this means. I think it means "I liked anything he would tell me" (Or literally "Unsurprisingly, I didn't like something until he would remember it).

Again, I'm not sure of this. Me auld Irish is rusty, better wait for someone else to help out.


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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2014 5:17 am 
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Right on, Gumbi! :good:

I came up with something pretty close (but your version actually sounds a lot better):

But it wasn't long now until I recognized that I had a person who was not like everyone but a mature sensible sharp-witted old person – whose own mind had exceeding knowledge. As a sign of that, instead of hoping for a question from me for it to move him to speak, it wasn't seldom that he'd tell (set up) a story or adventure that happened to himself. Gradually, as I got to know him better, I came to (on) the opinion that he had decided to do it, since the likes of me had come to be in his company, to give me an account of the great adventures of his life.


Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air.
Unsurprisingly, I wouldn't have preferred (any other) deed that he could have thought of (doing).

Whew, that was fun!


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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
PostPosted: Fri 16 May 2014 10:31 am 
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Sorry, I have the book!

Eachtra would to me be closest to "major events, adventures". Eachtraí a shaeil would be something like "The major interesting points in his life".

The next line is a bit difficult:

Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air

Sometimes Irish uses simply the singular of the noun to stand in for "any other" rather than using aon X eile.

Níorbh fhearr liom = I wouldn't prefer/I would not have preferred (Irish doesn't distinguish the Conditional and the Conditional perfect.)

beart = an act, a deed (but here "any other deed")

go gcuimhneodh sé air = which he would think of, which he would have though of

By the way "Ach......anois" often equates to the English But now.

Ach ba gheairid an mhoill anois gur aithníos nár dhuine mar chách a bhí agam ach seanóir géarchúiseach stuamtha aibidh – go raibh fios a aigne féin go feille-bhinn aige. Dá chomhartha san, in ionad a bheith ag brath ar cheist uaimse chun é a bhogadh chun cainte, níorbh annamh a chuireadh sé ar bun scéal nó eachtra a thit amach do féin. Do réir a chéile, mar a mhéadaigh m'aitheantas air, thána ar an dtuairim go raibh sé curtha roimis aige, ó casadh mo leithéid ina chuibhreann, cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil. Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air

But now it was a short delay before I realised that it wasn't a typical person (literally "a person like all others") I had, but a witty, level-headed, ripe (as in "quick") old fella, who knew his own mind sweetly (very well). Because of that, instead of depending on a question from in order to budge him to speak, it wasn't rare that he would start up a story (cur ar bun means "to start up, establish") or an adventurous account which happened to himself. (In accordance with each other)* as I got to know him better, I came to the opinion that it had been decided by him, since somebody like my had happened into his company, to give me a short account of the major points of his life. Unsurprisingly, I wouldn't have preferred any other thing that he could have thought to do.

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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
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An Lon Dubh wrote:
Sorry, I have the book!

Eachtra would to me be closest to "major events, adventures". Eachtraí a shaeil would be something like "The major interesting points in his life".

The next line is a bit difficult:

Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air

Sometimes Irish uses simply the singular of the noun to stand in for "any other" rather than using aon X eile.

Níorbh fhearr liom = I wouldn't prefer/I would not have preferred (Irish doesn't distinguish the Conditional and the Conditional perfect.)

beart = an act, a deed (but here "any other deed")

go gcuimhneodh sé air = which he would think of, which he would have though of

By the way "Ach......anois" often equates to the English But now.

Ach ba gheairid an mhoill anois gur aithníos nár dhuine mar chách a bhí agam ach seanóir géarchúiseach stuamtha aibidh – go raibh fios a aigne féin go feille-bhinn aige. Dá chomhartha san, in ionad a bheith ag brath ar cheist uaimse chun é a bhogadh chun cainte, níorbh annamh a chuireadh sé ar bun scéal nó eachtra a thit amach do féin. Do réir a chéile, mar a mhéadaigh m'aitheantas air, thána ar an dtuairim go raibh sé curtha roimis aige, ó casadh mo leithéid ina chuibhreann, cúntas a thabhairt dom ar eachtraí móra a shaoil. Ní nach iontach, níorbh fhearr liom beart go gcuimhneodh sé air

But now it was a short delay before I realised that it wasn't a typical person (literally "a person like all others") I had, but a witty, level-headed, ripe (as in "quick") old fella, who knew his own mind sweetly (very well). Because of that, instead of depending on a question from in order to budge him to speak, it wasn't rare that he would start up a story (cur ar bun means [i]to start up, establish) or an adventurous account which happened to himself. (In accordance with each other)* as I got to know him better, I came to the opinion that it had been decided by him, since somebody like my had happened into his company, to give me a short account of the major points of his life. Unsurprisingly, I wouldn't have though he could have thought of a better thing to do.[/i]


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 Post subject: Re: Ní thuigim …
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Séamus wrote:
WFM,
Cad é am t-ainm ar an leabhar atá á léamh agat agus cé hé an t-údar ? Tá an cuma ann go bhfuil sé roinnt beag dúshlánach.
Séamus

"Ar muir is ar tír" le Muiris Ó Catháin. Is iad an leabhar san agus "Lá dár saol" an dá leabhar is usa ósna Blascaodaí, má theastaíonn dúshlán uait dein iarraidh ar "An tOileánach" a léadh! ;)

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