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PostPosted: Thu 22 Nov 2012 2:09 am 
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Hello to all, this is my first posting here, I am so excited to have the oportunity to share my love of irish language and culture with others. So here goes. I am getting a tattoo this week, for my girl, and I had an inscription attached except I am not sure if an internet translator could be reliable with a whole phrase. It reads:


SUN AND MOON, DANCING IN THE HEAVENS

The only noun that could possibly vary is "heavens", being able to use "sky" or "heaven" instead.
I would really appreacite anyone's help. Thanks in advance.


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Nov 2012 2:11 am 
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Lidrev wrote:
Hello to all, this is my first posting here, I am so excited to have the oportunity to share my love of irish language and culture with others. So here goes. I am getting a tattoo this week, for my girl, and I had an inscription attached except I am not sure if an internet translator could be reliable with a whole phrase. It reads:


The only noun that could possibly vary is "heavens", being able to use "sky" or "heaven" instead.
I would really appreacite anyone's help. Thanks in advance.



Oh, didn't read the phrase at first, here it is:

SUN AND MOON, DANCING IN THE HEAVENS


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Nov 2012 2:18 am 
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Lidrev wrote:
Lidrev wrote:
Hello to all, this is my first posting here, I am so excited to have the oportunity to share my love of irish language and culture with others. So here goes. I am getting a tattoo this week, for my girl, and I had an inscription attached except I am not sure if an internet translator could be reliable with a whole phrase. It reads:


The only noun that could possibly vary is "heavens", being able to use "sky" or "heaven" instead.
I would really appreacite anyone's help. Thanks in advance.



Oh, didn't read the phrase at first, here it is:

SUN AND MOON, DANCING IN THE HEAVENS


I think "sky" might work better, as Irish tends to interpret "heaven" as...well, heaven. As opposed to as a poetic word for sky.

Perhaps...

An Ghrian agus An Ghealach ag Damhsa sa Spéir The Sun and the Moon Dancing in the Sky.

Wait for more.

Oh, and you're wise not to trust machine translations! Here's a little adventure we had with Google Translate a while back!

http://www.bitesizeirishgaelic.com/blog/?p=2267

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Nov 2012 2:34 am 
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Redwolf wrote:
I think "sky" might work better, as Irish tends to interpret "heaven" as...well, heaven. As opposed to as a poetic word for sky.

Perhaps...

An Ghrian agus An Ghealach ag Damhsa sa Spéir The Sun and the Moon Dancing in the Sky.

Wait for more.

Looks good but might be better without the capital A on an:

An Ghrian agus an Ghealach ag Damhsa sa Spéir
"The Sun and the Moon Dancing in the Sky."

Rince could also be substituted for damhsa. The verb rinc is also used for the spinning of tops:

An Ghrian agus an Ghealach ag Rince sa Spéir

Await further input ...

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Nov 2012 10:22 am 
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Maybe swaping "is" for "agus"

"An Ghrian is an Ghealach ag Damhsa/ Rince sa Spéir"

There's nice illiteration there- especially between the vowels (Comhardadh).

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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
Maybe swaping "is" for "agus"

"An Ghrian is an Ghealach ag Damhsa/ Rince sa Spéir"

There's nice illiteration there- especially between the vowels (Comhardadh).

I always prefer is haha :D


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Lidrev agus and is are equivalent. Is is often used for commonly paired objects, which the sun and moon are, I guess.

However, if you are going to use an old font that may be moot as you can replace agus/and with which works like "&":

An Ġrian ⁊ an Ġealach ag Daṁsa sa Spéir

An Ġrian ⁊ an Ġealach ag Rince sa Spéir

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