I was under the impression that a full Irish breakfast did not include beans, but that a full English did? I have since seen a 'full Irish' being advertised which includes beans. On the basis that this question is about an important aspect of Irish culture, I feel that the members of this forum may have expertise to offer on this pressing issue. Smaointe le bhur dtoil?

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No idea, but I do know that restaurateurs and B&B operators will happily change a definition based on what they think their clientele want.

When I was in my 20s, a "continental breakfast" meant the kind of breakfast you might get in France...a croissant or some other kind of bread and coffee (usually cafe au lait). When hotels here started offering "free continental breakfasts," they changed the "bread" to "pastries" (sweet pastries more to American tastes: typically doughnuts and Danishes) and the coffee to standard American-brewed coffee. Then they started adding fruit and cold cereal. Now if you go to a hotel that offers a "free continental breakfast," you're likely to get not only pastries and cold cereal, but also instant oatmeal; toast and other toasty things, such as bagels or English muffins; yogurt; make-your-own Belgian waffles; and hard-boiled eggs. Your drink choices will include milk, tea and herbal teas, instant cocoa, and (usually) some kind of fruit juice. In fact, in a review on a travel site recently, the author lamented that a particular hotel didn't offer a "true continental breakfast" because there were no waffles or eggs!

In short, I wonder if you're seeing beans advertised with a "full-Irish breakfast" because visiting customers are demanding them, rather than because they're traditionally part of a "full-Irish."

Redwolf

You need boxty (irish potato cake) for a proper traditional irish breakfast instead of hash browns oh and proper irish bacon other countries bacon just don't taste the same . Ive always gotten beans with the one my mum makes :P

That's what I thought too. I would have noticed - I hate baked beans but love black pudding.

Googling "How to run a bed and breakfast in Ireland" brought up this:

http://www.ehow.com/how_6494396_run-suc ... eland.html

It says only that a full Irish breakfast "consists of Irish sausages, rashers, eggs and toast." That would leave room for the kind of adjustments Redwolf mentions.

The regulating body for B&B's is Fáilte Ireland. Couldn't find a definition on their site, though, only that you have to offer two cooked alternatives "Full Irish Breakfast" to qualify.

Googling "Full Irish Breakfast" brought up Wikipedia's definition (FWIW) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_break ... _breakfast:



Damn, now I'm hungry ...

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Cád atá uaibh ?

-Slisíní bagúin
-Ispíní
-Putóg dhubh/lúbán dubh
-Uibheacha friochta
-Putóg bhán/lúbán bán
-Pónairí
-Tósta
-Bacstaí
-Arán prátaí
-Sodóg
- agus Pota tae le do thoil.


(This is taken from - Leabhar Beag Cócaireachta Éireannach)
Bricfeasta Mór

Is maith is cuimhin liom an samhradh breá gréine a bhí ann cúpla bliain ó shin. Bhí mé ag fanacht i dteach feirme i gCorca Dhuibhne. Ní hamháin gur chuimhin liom an dea-aimsir, is cuimhin liom na bricfeastaí, chomh maith.
Baintear ceann den bhricfeasta seo le leath seadóige atá díreach gearrtha agus brus beag siúcra mhín air. Babhla leite leamhnachta ansin, gan aon chnapóga ann, agus a chrúiscín beag féin uachtair in éineacht leis. Ina dhiaidh sin bíodh na slisíní bagúin agat, na hispíní is na huibhreacha, agus scónaí agus arán caiscín, te ón oigheann. Mil, subh bhaile, im úr agus pota tae ina dhiaidh sin.
Bíodh dhá ispín an duine ann. Frioch iad go réidh ar theas íseal go mbeidh siad déanta agus dath donnórga ar an taobh amuigh orthu. Caith cúpla slisne an duine de phutóg bhán agus de phutóg dhubh ar an bhfriochtán chomh maith. Bain iad den fhriochtán agus coinnigh te iad. Doirt an ghréisc as an bhfriochtán mar ní héasca í a dhíleá, agus frioch dhá shlisín bagú
in a bhfuil an craiceann bainte díobh. Frioch cúpla ubh ansin i ngeir an bhagúin. Caith an gheir the thar na buícáin le spúnog chun iad a théachtadh. Frioch cúpla muisiriún an duine ansin, leath tráta agus slisne nó dó d'arán prataí an duine. Féadfar beagán ime a chur sa fhriochtán mura mbíonn dóthain geire ann, ach ná húsáid im amháin mar dóitear é ag teas ró-íseal.

Ó, a Shaoirse. Féach go bhfuil pónairí istigh ann. (Cad í an Ghaeilge ar "blech!"?)

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

In the old days we would probably only have tea with soda bread and butter and porridge if you wanted it. Fry-ups were rarer.
For a full fry I'd personally like rashers, sausages, black and white puddings, eggs. I don't like beans for breakfast or those mushrooms. But really I'd be happy with just sausages or grilled rashers with bread.
I don't know the difference between a full Irish and British.

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Irish breakfast to me, included eggs, rashers,sausages, soda bread and black and white pudding. I have had it with beans. Tea to drink.

To answer Bríd - I sometimes take our group of friends for walking trips to the South of England - we usually stay in youth hostels and occasionally in local hotels (but they tend to be very expensive). In one village where we stayed a night, we had to split the group up between two hotels. In the one where the others were, they were impressed by the breakfast they had and that the bean a tí explained how she had prepared it - she fried the bacon and eggs and then she fried slices of bread in the bacon fat left in the pan. In England at least, I don't think you would usually get black or white pudding, soda bread, farlings or scones for breakfast. I hear that now people only have a full breakfast at weekends, as during the week they just don't have the time for it. Here we usually have a large bowl of coffee with a couple of tartines de confiture or various kinds of special breads that are typical of the West of France - brioche vendéenne tressée or une gâche vendéenne - and sitting up in bed - so we wouldn't usually sit at table unless we have guests or we are away somewhere with our group of friends.

I had boxty for breakfast today.

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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