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 Post subject: TAT: Introvert
PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul 2012 10:16 pm 
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Hi all,
I am looking for a translation of "introvert," as it would be used to describe a person. I've found indíritheach, is this correct? And could any of you help me out with pronunciation?

Thanks very much!


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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
PostPosted: Sun 08 Jul 2012 10:27 pm 
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amymclaughlin wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking for a translation of "introvert," as it would be used to describe a person. I've found indíritheach, is this correct? And could any of you help me out with pronunciation?

Thanks very much!



indíritheoir - noun
indíritheach - I think that would be adjective (?)


I know it's in the dictionary but still it sounds contrived to me.

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
I know it's in the dictionary but still it sounds contrived to me.

So is the word "introvert" in English, in a way. ;)

Perhaps duine cúthail ?

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
I know it's in the dictionary but still it sounds contrived to me.

So is the word "introvert" in English, in a way. ;)

Perhaps duine cúthail ?


Except that introverts aren't necessarily shy...and shy people aren't necessarily introverted.

We're all introverts in our family, and no one will ever accuse Anna of being shy!

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Redwolf wrote:
Except that introverts aren't necessarily shy...and shy people aren't necessarily introverted.


True, it is not the same thing.

Although you can be introverted and shy at the same time too.

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Focal gives both indíritheoir or indíritheach as the noun, and indíritheach only as the adjective.

Given that "shy" is not the same as "introverted", what then is the traditional word for someone who prefers to spend time alone than to be in the company of others?

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Thank you for your responses, everyone. And no, shyness and introversion are not always the same. :)


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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Breandán wrote:
Focal gives both indíritheoir or indíritheach as the noun, and indíritheach only as the adjective.

Given that "shy" is not the same as "introverted", what then is the traditional word for someone who prefers to spend time alone than to be in the company of others?


That's not quite it either. Introverts often enjoy the company of others...but they need alone time (or the company of a select few) to recharge. They derive their energy from within. Extraverts, on the other hand, draw energy from being around others, and find too much alone time stressful.

The word may sound contrived in Irish, but I'm not sure there IS a traditional word for the concept. The term as it's commonly used in English comes from Jungian psychology:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introverted

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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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I don't yet know very much about the language, so please forgive the silly question, but what makes it sound contrived?


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 Post subject: Re: TAT: Introvert
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Here is a guide to the pronunciation:

.:>:.indíritheoir
IN-dee-rhih-horh
/in´d´i:r´əho:r´/

.:>:.indíritheach
IN-dee-rhi-hukh
/in´d´i:r´əhəx/

The slender d is between a d and a j sound.

The slender r, which I have written as "rh" in the phonics, is lightly flapped like Scottish r but so light that it almost buzzes.

th is just an h sound.

The broad ch /x/ (kh in my phonics) is like the ch in loch /lox/ (lokh), never like a k sound. It may help to think of a very breathy h pronounced deep in the throat. Could also be described as the sound people make when clearing phlegm from the throat.

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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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