This may well be a terrible idea; if it is, the thread will fade into oblivion. The suggestion is that someone posts a noun and someone else has to use it in four different ways – nominative singular, nominative plural, genitive singular and genitive plural. He/she then writes another noun for someone else to do the same thing with.

The purpose is to help me (and hopefully others) to learn so if there is a mistake made, please feel free to correct – with an explanation if appropriate. In fact, if you spot a mistake, please do not leave it; otherwise we will think it is correct.

People should also consider adding a sentence to Scooby’s Tuiseal Ginideach story at: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1182&hilit=ginideach

fear = man (ainmfhocal firinscneach den chéad díochlaonadh = masculine noun of the first declension)

Nominative singular (ainmneach uatha): Chonaic mé fear. = I saw a man.
Nominative plural (ainmneach iolra): Chonaic mé na fir. = I saw the men.
Genitive singular (ginideach uatha): Sin teach an fhir. = That is the man’s house.
Genitive plural (ginideach iolra): Sin leithreas na bhfear. = That is the men’s toilet

I came across this expression on http://www.focal.ie and thought it was worth including: comrádaíocht na bhfear = male bonding

Corrections, as always, are welcome.

Next word: teach = house Any takers?

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Teach:

Nominative singular: Tá teach sa choill: There is a house in the woods.
Nominative plural: Tá tithe go leor sa sráid seo: There are lots of houses in this street.
Genitive singular: Is bean an tí í: She is the woman of the house.
Genitive plural: Tá an teach tabhairne os comhair na dtithe seo: The pub is across from those houses.

Next word: Crann

Redwolf

I think some of your sentences are a bit jumbled, but I'm definitely open to correction.

Tá go leor tithe sa sráid seo

I would interpret the third sentence as "She is a woman of the house" I belive Is í an bhean tí is what you were aiming for. (Wouild Is í bean an tí be correct?)

Yes, you're right. I almost didn't use "go leor," because I always get it backward (probably a result of how "galore" is used in English).

Question...would "tithe" need to be genitive after "go leor"?

And you're right about the other sentence as well. "Bean an tí" is definite here, so the pronoun should go before.


Redwolf

The position of go leor is not incorrect here. Go leor can come before the noun (in which case it takes the genitive) or after (in which case there is no change to the case of the noun). I think they still mean the same thing, but perhaps someone can tell us if there is a difference in the nuance.

Also, this may be a dialect thing, but I'd say sa tsráid seo for "in this street". This t is appended to feminine nouns starting with an s after a preposition with the article in Connemara, and to both masculine and feminine nouns starting with an s after a preposition with the article in Munster. Not sure about Ulster.


Slight typo there, I think, Red.

Just so the beginners don't get confused, os comhair na dtithe seo is "across from these houses" - "across from those houses" would be os comhair na dtithe sin.

Back to the game ...

Crann:

Ainmneach uatha: Tá crann mór i lár na cathrach. "There's a big tree in the middle of the city."
Ainmneach iolra: Tá crainn mhóra amuigh faoin dtuath freisin. "There are big trees out in the country too."
Ginideach uatha: Tá nead beag ar chraobh an chrainn sa chathair. "There's a little nest on the branch of the tree in the city."
Ginideach iolra: Bíonn neadacha beaga ar chraobhacha na gcrann amuigh faoin tuath freisin. "There are usually little nests on the branches of the trees in the country too."

(Corrections and comments welcome.)

Next word: sceach (making use of Bríd's Focal an Lae )

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I am a bit out of my comfort zone here, but I have two questions.... 1. ainmneach iolra - why is it not 'crainn móra'? and 2. ginideach uatha - I would have expected it to be 'ar chraobhacha an chrainn'.

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Slender ending in "crainn" so the following word is lenited. I think Breandán made a mistake in the second one.

And Breandán, I think faoin dtuath is un-Standard; is it a Connemara thing? I'm fairly sure it's done in Muster. The standard is faoin tuath

Yep, you are right on both counts there. Fixed above.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

No prob, no prob

Is it lenited because there is a slender ending or just because it ends with a consonant?

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