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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jun 2013 1:31 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
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In a description of an Irish Meetup in New York, I read that it was "a place for the Irish in New York: Irish-born, first generation, second generation, any generation...Speak Irish, don't have the cupla focal and don't even know what that means..."

I don't understand the way "cupla focal" is used in that sentence. Does it mean "a few words," or is there a different or more specific meaning? Is it quoted/used correctly in that English sentence?

It does literally mean "a few words". It can be used to mean "School Irish", i.e., you started once (because all Irish children are forced to learn it at school) but stopped.

Theoretically everyone in Ireland has the "cupla focal" but only the enthusiastic ones take it to the next level.

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"Forced" :nail: that's a bit harsh Bren....em encouraged??? :yes:


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 11:25 am 
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Rossaí wrote:
"Forced" that's a bit harsh Bren....em encouraged???
:yes: Nobody ever says that Irish kids are 'forced' to learn English or Maths at school! :mrgreen: The only people I ever hear using the word 'forced' in relation to Irish are people who think it is a waste of time - and clearly Brendan is very, very far from that view point.

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013 7:06 pm 
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Nobody ever says that Irish kids are 'forced' to learn English or Maths at school! :mrgreen:

Don't they? Quite a few mathematicians would agree that the current school mentality destroys young people's enthusiasm for maths. Current English teaching methods also tend to leave students rather inadequately skilled at English. :rolleyes:

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PostPosted: Sun 09 Jun 2013 8:28 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
Nobody ever says that Irish kids are 'forced' to learn English or Maths at school! :mrgreen:

Don't they? Quite a few mathematicians would agree that the current school mentality destroys young people's enthusiasm for maths. Current English teaching methods also tend to leave students rather inadequately skilled at English. :rolleyes:
:yes: I absolutely agree with you about Maths and English; the only point I was making is that some people here will sometimes complain that children are 'forced' to learn Irish, but nobody seems to question the wisdom of making everyone learn English and Maths at school. I am not suggesting for a second that Irish children shouldn't learn them; I just happen to believe as strongly that Irish children should learn Irish also. :prof:

I just think that the word 'force' regarding the learning of Irish implies a negativity about the language that I know you do not have - otherwise you would not do what you do for the language on ILF.

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