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Labhrás · **Joined:** Sat 03 May 2014 4:01 pm **Posts:** 1968

"Osclaítear anseo" is okay.

Oscail or osclaítear - depends on custom, I'd say.

NiallBeag · **Joined:** Wed 19 Dec 2012 3:58 pm **Posts:** 488

The point to remember is that the English here is grammatically imperative, but in this example it's not really a command. Do you expect everyone who reads it to open it? No, it's just advice about how it opens -- information on how to open it (if you want to). That's why people are advocating the impersonal form here.

Labhrás · **Joined:** Sat 03 May 2014 4:01 pm **Posts:** 1968

NiallBeag wrote:

The point to remember is that the English here is grammatically imperative, but in this example it's not really a command. Do you expect everyone who reads it to open it? No, it's just advice about how it opens -- information on how to open it (if you want to). That's why people are advocating the impersonal form here.

osclaítear is imperative, too, only impersonal.

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Labhrás wrote:

NiallBeag wrote:

The point to remember is that the English here is grammatically imperative, but in this example it's not really a command. Do you expect everyone who reads it to open it? No, it's just advice about how it opens -- information on how to open it (if you want to). That's why people are advocating the impersonal form here.

osclaítear is imperative, too, only impersonal.

Ya, its not too long ago people used to say ná cait(h)tear tobac, so osclaítear anseo é , should work just as well.

Though nowadays, oscail anseo é, would be more common.

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sat 14 Feb 2015 11:28 pm

Lughaidh wrote:

Thanks for your compliment but unfortunately I'm not a native speaker, I'm not even an Irish citizen, I started to learn Irish when I was 16 (almost 20 years ago).

Redwolf wrote:

As it happens, I'm also a fluent speaker. 11 years learning as of this January.

I have said it before, I would love to see some kind of honorary citizenship for a non-Irish person who has fluent Irish. It really is well deserved. :clap:

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Saoirse wrote:

Lughaidh wrote:

Thanks for your compliment but unfortunately I'm not a native speaker, I'm not even an Irish citizen, I started to learn Irish when I was 16 (almost 20 years ago).

Redwolf wrote:

As it happens, I'm also a fluent speaker. 11 years learning as of this January.

I have said it before, I would love to see some kind of honorary citizenship for a non-Irish person who has fluent Irish. It really is well deserved. :clap:

galaxyrocker · **Posted:** Sun 15 Feb 2015 5:02 am

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Ya, its not too long ago people used to say ná cait(h)tear tobac, so osclaítear anseo é , should work just as well.

Though nowadays, oscail anseo é, would be more common.

That's also part of the reason I went with the autonomous. You can still see ná caitear tobac in places. Plus, you're just commanding someone to open it, not necessarily the person who does it. Kinda translating it as the "let" imperative - "Let one open here"

Saoirse wrote:

I have said it before, I would love to see some kind of honorary citizenship for a non-Irish person who has fluent Irish. It really is well deserved. :clap:

"

I'd absolutely love that. Then I could actually move and work there.

Gumbi · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 8:09 pm **Posts:** 943

galaxyrocker wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Ya, its not too long ago people used to say ná cait(h)tear tobac, so osclaítear anseo é , should work just as well.

Though nowadays, oscail anseo é, would be more common.

That's also part of the reason I went with the autonomous. You can still see ná caithtear tobac in places. Plus, you're just commanding someone to open it, not necessarily the person who does it. Kinda translating it as the "let" imperative - "Let one open here"

Saoirse wrote:

I have said it before, I would love to see some kind of honorary citizenship for a non-Irish person who has fluent Irish. It really is well deserved. :clap:

"

I'd absolutely love that. Then I could actually move and work there.

Ná caitear is the correct spelling, no?

galaxyrocker · **Posted:** Sun 15 Feb 2015 8:57 pm

Gumbi wrote:

Ná caitear is the correct spelling, no?

You're correct. I hate spelling.

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