This is in answer to a question posed in the "Come and introduce yourself here" thread:



Dia dhaoibh is somewhat standardised. It would be Dia daoibh in school Irish. Dia dhíb in Connemara.

There are a number of ways to introduce yourself:

~ is ainm dom "My name is ~" seems to be the preference in schools.
Is mise ~ "I am ~" (I think this used to be reserved for the emphatic "_I_ am ~" but it has become more everyday.)
A more natural way in Irish is to say ~ atá orm. "My name is ~" literally "~ is on me.", e.g., Breandán atá orm.

tríocha a dó bliain* is a common enough mistake. In Irish, you should use the numbers up to ten before the noun with the tens (or more traditionally, the twenties) after is, e.g., bliain is fiche (d'aois) "21 years (old)", cúig bhliana is daichead "45 years", leathchéad bliain "50 years", naoi mbliana is seasca/trí fichid "69 years", céad is trí bliana déag "113 years", etc.

Note that the noun is usually in the singular after a number but bliain has its own counting form bliana from three and upward, so only aon and dhá lenite, i.e., aon bhliain, dhá bhliain. Normally trí through sé lenite a noun but bliana is a special case that doesn't, i.e., trí bliana, etc., and then seacht through deich eclipse (as usual), i.e., seacht mbliana, etc. (See Braoin's post below for the full set.)

Not that it applies much to ages, but above 100, you can also put the tens back in their normal order but you still modify the noun by the rule of the final digit, e.g., 2,334 capall = dhá mhíle, trí chéad tríocha is ceithre chapall "2,334 horses". Notice that when writing figures you don't modify the noun, but when you read it aloud you lenite the noun.

So too, you may write 18 bliain d'aois, but should read it, ocht mbliana déag d'aois

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I have never heard that before.

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I'm not sure it's school Irish. I think it may just be a mistake that people make.

Redwolf

Somebody please correct me if I am wrong, but I never had anything other than the following:

aon bhliain amháin
dhá bhliain
trí bliana
ceithre bliana
cúig bliana
sé bliana
seacht mbliana
ocht mbliana
naoi mbliana
deich mbliana
aon bhliain déag
dhá bhliain déag
trí bliana déag
seacht mbliana déag
fiche bliain
scór bliain
scór de bhlianta
dhá scór bliain
céad bliain
míle bliain
etc.

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Bí cinnte de go nglacfaidh triúr le gach aistriúchán a thabharfar.
Be sure to get three in agreement with a translation given.

Yeah, "bliana" isn't lenited after 3-6, because it's a specific plural.
3-6 lenite singular nouns, but not plural ones:

trí theach but trí bliana
ceithre theach but ceithre bliana
cúig theach but cúig bliana
sé theach but sé bliana




typo: aon bhliain déag

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Thanks for that. I fixed it.

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Bí cinnte de go nglacfaidh triúr le gach aistriúchán a thabharfar.
Be sure to get three in agreement with a translation given.

Yes, you are right, of course, a Bhraonaigh. That's what I get for getting not paying attention properly.

Fixed above.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

A lot of people say "tríocha a dó bliain" nowadays, including myself sometimes . But the way Breandán described is the correct way. If you listen to the death notices on Raidió na Gaeltachta you will notice that is how ages are announced.

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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Relax, Bríd. You're allowed to now.
The 'Caighdeán Oifigiúil Athbhreithnithe' says:

Ó thaobh na n-uimhreacha de,creidtear anois go bhfuil leaganacha ar nós fiche a dó fear, nach bhfuarthas údarás ar bith dóibh agus Caighdeán Oifigiúil 1958 á chur a dtoll a chéile, an-choitianta sna trí mhór chanúint agus tugtar mar phatrún roghnach sa chaighdeán seo iad.

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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