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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012 3:25 pm 
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Hi all -

I'm looking for some help on pronouncing a greeting. I wanted to have a greeting in Gaeilge to greet a friend who is an Irish native. I received this line from a friend of his. Could someone please help me with a recording? He did provide phonetic spelling but I have trouble getting those to sound smooth.

"Fáilte arais, deas thú a fheicfeáil arís."

Any help would be much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012 5:11 pm 
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damaney wrote:
Hi all -

I'm looking for some help on pronouncing a greeting. I wanted to have a greeting in Gaeilge to greet a friend who is an Irish native. I received this line from a friend of his. Could someone please help me with a recording? He did provide phonetic spelling but I have trouble getting those to sound smooth.

"Fáilte arais, deas thú a fheicfeáil arís."

Any help would be much appreciated.

The spelling needs a little tidying up:

Fáilte ar ais, deas thú a fheiceáil arís.
FAWiL-t y_erh_ASH DyASS hoo ECK-awl ih-RHEESH(ch)
/fɑ:L´t´_er´ æ:s´ d´æ:s hu: ek´a:l´_ə'r´i:s´t´/

.:>:.Fáilte ar ais, deas thú a fheiceáil arís.

The slender r /r´/, which I have written as "rh" in the phonics, is lightly flapped like Scottish r but so light that it almost buzzes.

The end of Fáilte and the following ar run together to give something between TEAR/TARE and CHAIR. (It almost sounds like "FILE chair ASH".)

deas is somewhere between DASS and JASS.

You can drop the ch sound from the end of arís. It's aríst in Connemara and I can't break the habit. ;)

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012 5:36 pm 
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Breandán -

This is way more than I expected. Your time is very much appreciated.

Go raibh maith agat.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012 5:51 pm 
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Ná habair é. (Don't mention it.)

Hopefully others will put some more samples up - the more examples the better. :party:

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012 6:01 pm 
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Breandán -

It doesn't have to be perfect, in my case. Because I won't say it perfect and he'll make fun of me regardless. Besides my english isn't perfect. :D

That being said, I do respect your commitment.


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damaney wrote:
It doesn't have to be perfect, in my case.

That's understood, Dennis, but lots of other people at different levels will read this thread over time and I hope they will also benefit from what I have put up. :wave:

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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Breandán wrote:
Ná habair é. (Don't mention it.)


I completely understand where you are coming from.

Related to a previous reply of yours. I've heard "Ní" used before (Ní thuigim). Is there a place on the forum that explains the difference between Ní and Ná? I don't want to derail this topic, I don't see a way to PM though.


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damaney wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Ná habair é. (Don't mention it.)


I completely understand where you are coming from.

Related to a previous reply of yours. I've heard "Ní" used before (Ní thuigim). Is there a place on the forum that explains the difference between Ní and Ná? I don't want to derail this topic, I don't see a way to PM though.

negates verbs in general.

only negates the imperative, i.e., it is used to make negative orders "Don't (do) ..."

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep 2012 7:24 pm 
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It's completely obvious now.


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damaney wrote:
Hi all -

I'm looking for some help on pronouncing a greeting. I wanted to have a greeting in Gaeilge to greet a friend who is an Irish native. I received this line from a friend of his. Could someone please help me with a recording? He did provide phonetic spelling but I have trouble getting those to sound smooth.

"Fáilte arais, deas thú a fheicfeáil arís."

Any help would be much appreciated.


Just in case...what the friend provided you means "welcome back, it's nice to see you again." Is that appropriate in this case (i.e., are you welcoming this person back, and is it someone you've seen before?)? You didn't say, so I thought it was worth noting.

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